Should feminist petitions stay in Feminist Chat?

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Another petition has been shuffled off Feminist Chat to languish in the tumbleweed of the Petitions board.

I can totally understand that petitions in AIBU or _Chat could be annoying, and if they were allowed MN might get overrun with petitions.

But AIBU to think feminism is different as it is by definition an activist part of the site? Feminism isn't just chat, it's about doing stuff also.

Would you like to see feminist petitions stay in FWR? (i.e. on this board) instead of being hidden away on the Petitions board?

Do any regular users of the feminist boards actually object to feminist petitions being here?

I think MN should make an exception to the petitions rule for petitions on the feminist boards. What do you think?

Would you like to see feminist petitions stay in FWR? (i.e. on this board) instead of being hidden away on the Petitions board?
Yes

Do any regular users of the feminist boards actually object to feminist petitions being here?
No

If it wasn't in FWR, I'd have not seen and signed.

agree OP - Feminist chat is a key place for political organising for me, and petitions are a part of that.

If it wasn't in FWR, I'd have not seen and signed

I've signed lots of petitions on the basis of them being in FWR. And, I expect to find new petitions here.

What seems to happen is they get posted here, women sign, then they get shuffled off to petitions and that's pretty much the end of it.

I don't think I've ever found a petition via the petitions board.

I really think MNHQ should make an exception for FWR petitions. It just doesn't make sense the way it's being done now.

Definitely agree, and not just petitions. Someone asked for advice on helping a potentially homeless friend of her child. It got over 15 replies with some, hopefully, helpful suggestions in a couple of days. Then it was moved to the LGBT children section of Being a Parent, and no further contributions.

FWR gets so much traffic it makes sense to keep relevant topics right here.

Fwr petitions on this board, Brexit petitions on the Brexit board...Sen petitions on the Sen board. Etc etc. Can understand keeping them off aibu and chat but if they relate to a specific topics they should be there.if it all gets a bit silly and overpowering have a rethink.

Is it a rule that petitions must be in the petitions board? If so, would be allowed to have maybe a petitions thread in fwr to notify people of new petitions on that board or even link to them (to their place on the petitions board) so they get more traffic?

I'd prefer them to be on fwr.

Relevant petitions of course.

Would you like to see feminist petitions stay in FWR? (i.e. on this board) instead of being hidden away on the Petitions board?
Yes
Do any regular users of the feminist boards actually object to feminist petitions being here?
No

How about it @MNHQ? Could you rethink the petitions policy please?

I would prefer the petitions to be here.

I'd prefer them to be on fwr.

Yes, me too. They should be here. Moving them to petitions does nothing except hide them.

I know there was a good reason for the petitions board - to avoid spamming - but moving everything blindly is crap for genuine petition threads. It seems like the solution would be that if a petition is linked to once, on a relevant board, it should remain there, maybe being copied to the petitions board.

We get instances where multiple threads for the same petition get created and moved in succession so it makes it harder to even keep one in Active convos.

Yes. It's ridiculous that feminist petitions can't be in the most suitable place - which is here.

I understand the no crowdfunding links rule and also why AIBU/Chat might not want to be cluttered with them but here we all have a vested interest and very much do want them.

I'd like to be able to access petitions here

I had no idea there was a petition board. Wonder how many I've missed.

I don't understand why feminist petitions wouldn't appear on FWR.

No of course they should not be permitted.

Unless any and every topic has the same privileges

MN is a chat site, not a campaigning one - as a poster put it 'Starbucks, not Central Hall'

Yes MN should not be a political site.

I agree that Feminist chat is clearly not just about the theory but about the practice. As such I'd appreciate petitions / crowdfunders etc being allowed on the board. Do hope you can reconsider in this specific case MN?

• No of course they should not be permitted.

Unless any and every topic has the same privileges *

They should, the exceptions being the general topics such as chat and AIBU.

There are all sorts of petitions languishing on the petitions board, some of which deserve the wider notice which they'd get from being under a relevant topic.

Yes MN should not be a political site.

Says who? It is, and has been for a long time.

MN not a political site? crikey, someone has seriously skimmed some threads

and yes, I'd be really happy for feminist petitions to be posted here

if they're not feminist people will ignore them and they'll drop down the board I guess

I tried to post the link here as I feel it's a really important petition but it was deleted in about a nanosecond. It's extremely relevant to the feminist boards imo.

I suspect it was reported Triptych. There are lots of people invested in us not seeing these petitions. However you got my signature out of the nanosecond it was posted.

MN is a chat site, not a campaigning one

MN is a massive site with loads of different topics. Feminism is all about campaigning and this is specifically the feminist topic. I

Yes MN should not be a political site

Not arguing for the whole of mumsnet to be political. But feminism is political by definition. Disingenuous to pretend it isn't.

Are you two regulars on the feminist board I wonder?