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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Two unrelated newspaper reports

86 replies

Baguetteaboutit · 15/07/2019 15:19

That have absolutely nothing to do with one another but I'm just putting them here, for later.

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/middlesbrough-tory-councillor-appear-court-16586889.amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

And

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/gender-neutral-toilets-trial-backed-16466368

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/07/2019 20:47

"One simple solution that would be to rename disabled toilets as open access toilets and leave it so that binary men and women's needs are met with access to gendered toilets."

So says the Trans Aware representative, who seems not to give a shit about people who might urgently need a disabled toilet. And as for non binary people needing a special loo... it sounds batshit. Should there be one for each of the other 70+ genders too?

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 20:53

Completely unacceptable to commandeer Disabled toilets too.

Juells · 15/07/2019 20:54

Surely this case hasn't just popped up out of nowhere? Did Councillor Dave not know he was being investigated when he started this campaign?

As for the other person photographed in the article, if I was alone in a public toilet and that person came in I think I'd scream at the top of my lungs in fright :(

Popchyk · 15/07/2019 21:00

Remember that fella a while back who was all over Twitter lecturing, among others, Glinner, that women's concerns about predators accessing women and children in toilets were "not well founded".

Peter Bright. Arrested by the FBI for attempting to solicit sexual relations with with a 9 year old and a 7 year old.

www.businessinsider.com/peter-bright-charges-attempting-solicit-sex-minors-2019-6?r=US&IR=T

Bright had previously lamented that "glinner blocked me a few months ago after I pointed out in my usual polite fashion that TERF fearmongering about public restrooms was fact-free drivel".

womenarehuman.com/transgender-activist-ars-technica-writer-charged-with-sexually-soliciting-minors-peter-bright/

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 21:14

"TERF fearmongering about public restrooms was fact-free drivel"

I think "well, they would say that, wouldn't they" is particularly relevant here.

ZebrasAreBras · 15/07/2019 21:16

In the US, but convicted sex offender was leading a campaign for the Bathroom Bill.

www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article64943682.html

Different continent, same issue.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 15/07/2019 21:51

Might go and have a word with the Mayor...

Popchyk · 15/07/2019 21:59

Mayor here saying that he'd already delayed the trial of mixed sex toilets, pending more feedback.

twitter.com/Tees_Issues/status/1150743869367169024

Turns out Dave Smith, the accused, is on the Children and Young People's Learning Scrutiny panel at the council.

Comingtoatownnearyou · 15/07/2019 22:36

It just gets worse and worse doesn't it?

I am sure time will tell in regards to the charges brought against him.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/07/2019 23:20

So someone who is later accused of abusing kids actually wangled their way into positions of power with kids?

Well colour me rainbow-amazed.

ixqik · 16/07/2019 06:12

Well this is a peak trans episode that keeps giving. Mendacious prick.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 07:16

I am not saying that the person in question is guilty but I saw this on twitter today and it made me think...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-15790605

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 16/07/2019 08:01

Love the comments. Grin

You really don’t have to think too hard to imagine who wants “gender neutral” toilets and why.

It’s not the long queues is it?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 08:03

Unfettered access to women. You don’t see many women pushing for unisex loos do you?

They did try to have these on the 70s (in a ‘let it all hang out, everyone is equal, hippdippy’ kind of way). It didn’t take off and women were generally just a bit disgusted at the prospect - not scared.

HorsewithnoRegretsNonJeNeRegre · 16/07/2019 08:07

I bet that Dave Smith will be Angela smith before long.

Popchyk · 16/07/2019 09:25

Nah.

More likely Tiffany Smith or Demi-Rose Smith.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:44

The disregard they show for people with disabilities,disgusting.The one bloody toilet they get and it will be changed to a free for all they should be ashamed of themselfs. How selfish do you have to be to think that up.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:46

Dave Smith, the accused, is on the Children and Young People's Learning Scrutiny panel at the council.
That's not a surprise at all now, and I'm sure David has a place under that ever expanding umbrella,which really should be called a shield.

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 09:55

Over the last 24 hours, I have listened and read the public's concerns. But I maintain the view that gender-neutral toilets does not increase the threat to public safety

Says the man, consulting with males about what they want, not listening to women raising concerns and pointing to evidence.

Whatafuckingsurprise

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:59

Humber who said that?

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 10:04

Sorry I read it now,disnt see it the first time.

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:04

following Tueday's meeting, Cllr Smith said: "This morning I had a constructive meeting with the mayor on the topic of gender-neutral toilets. "I very much look forward to working with the mayor to deliver a positive environment for all of the citizens in Middlesbrough. Over the last 24 hours, I have listened and read the public's concerns. But I maintain the view that gender-neutral toilets does not increase the threat to public safety. In fact, gender neutral toilets already exist in Middlesbrough such as Starbucks to very little fuss."This is all about creating a positive environment for everyone to use public facilities without fear or humiliation." Cllr Smith's campaign has been backed by LGBT charity Hart Gables

I wonder who at ‘Hart Gables’ is backing the honourable Cllr who is currently protesting his innocence of multiple child sex offences?

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:06

Also a reminder that one very well known Coffee chain’s all sex toilets have been in the news recently after hidden cameras were found by an astute cleaner. But ‘very little fuss’ in Cllr’s view eh?

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:12

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48647089

And here.

ZebrasAreBras · 16/07/2019 11:09

LordProfFekko - that article Shock

Rennie was the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, which offers advice to young gay and lesbian people.

These men are absolute predators - jumping on the LGBT/TRA bandwagon - and yet we're called bigots for pointing this out!

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