Womanish

[sakura184]

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The way men think women speak or how they think we are supposed to speak. I've been told off on pink news for not womaning properly because I was sweary

Coffee, shopping and manicures, yep that's how I live my life.

Not sure coffee and manicures are a great combination. The more caffeine I take the more I bite my nails.

I don't quite understand ... Is that a transwoman feeling sad that they don't have any friends to do stereotypically girly things with? Or just sad that they have no friends?

Lots of people don't give a shit about doing anything more mentally taxing than choosing their Costa order.
My teenager made me watch love island - I felt my brain seeping out of my ears after one episode, but those people seem content to talk to each other for hours on end. Not sure it's a man view of woman thing.

I can get the wanting to go shopping, drink coffee etc. What I don’t get is why anyone would want to go with this person just to focus on this person’s needs for as long as the trip takes?

As an adult human female, I know that not everything is about me and it is nice to listen to my friends talk about their lives.

I felt my brain seeping out of my ears after one episode

😂😂😂

My best friend and I usually chat in her kitchen with a cuppa whilst she does the packed lunches, or we chat whilst we strip wallpaper or paint ceilings in her new house. I’ve been known to do the ironing whilst we chat at mine. I get sentiment of wanting a confidant, but friendship works equally well in mundane surroundings.

And apparently it helps if we sound whiney.

I often have an ‘edge of suppressed irritation’ in my voice - not sure how much that’s due to being female as opposed to being surrounded by annoying males about 85% of the time (husband + two sons).

Christella - voice coach to the special ladies.

A recent thread on hear revealed lots of women who don't like having their nails done because it turns out that nails are porous and nail varnish suffocates them and it actually feels like that.

SmallHaddock Probably due to surrounding company!

If it becomes a habit I wonder if we shouldn't be offered voice coaching to find our youthful happy voices before annoying males made us whiney and irritable?

Like when my DDs point out my frown and suggest I get Botox I reply "I never had a frown line before you two came along to annoy me". (All cheerful family teasing before I get flamed )

So... this person just wants to do things like shopping with chums and having coffee and a natter, and "getting nails done with someone who cares" (whatever that means). Somewhere along the line, they've been led to believe that this is the life of a woman. That's tragic. What a big steaming lie they've been told.

I really think a load of men need to team up and start a movement for the psychological emancipation of people of either sex who want to shop, chat and have their nails done.

Hate shopping, never got my nails done, prefer to drink coffee alone with a book. Guess I'm not womanly at all.

I suddenly realized what that list sounded like: guys shooting darts at the pub followed by footy. Except without the macho oneupsmanship.

I can’t for the life of me think that I have ever deepened my voice to be taken seriously.

Weirdly, although I’ve never had my nails done, I did go shopping and for coffee with a friend yesterday. We discussed Marcus Aurelius, managing despair in the face of climate change and the limitations of planning for catastrophic disaster. Also raising chickens, preserving tomatoes, dogs, the perils of family Christmas and knitting.

We went shopping for thermals because we both manage acreage and we had coffee because we’re both busy and don’t catch up often.

It’s how we woman: having active, interesting lives with a range of academic and domestic interests. It’s because we’re individuals as well as women.

I suspect though, that his voice coach is trolling him.we’re women, mate, not mosquitoes.

There is an anecdote about travel writer Jan (née James) Morris, who unable to get attention from airport staff with a female voice, reverted to a deep, male voice, to receive immediate service.

The bit which mystifies me is that on the one hand, the narrative is about “always been a woman really”, and it takes a lifetime of being with women and eight sessions with a voice coach to twig that women have been talking to him forever and he’s not paid attention to a single word, or even noticed how different women’s socialisation is.

His own words make a complete nonsense of his womanly fantasy. 🙄

Maybe there really are three sexes: women, men and the fantasy female which men seem to see so much more clearly than the real women right in front of them.

No mate, you’re not going to lose your male privilege, you’ll just be a white, middle-class, educated bloke in a dress with a creepy voice.

The entire article reeks, not of empathy and understanding, but entitlement and arrogance.

Agree completely Emma.

Want to come round and help me strip some anaglypta, Boatyard?

I read a Reddit post t’other day by a transitioning male whose ex wife had requested that the new lady-voice not be used around their young DD because it scared her.
Now I’m wondering if David Thomas has a daughter 😂

Want to come round and help me strip some anaglypta

I need to know more about your conversational ability and the quality of your coffee and biscuits before I can make an informed decision, Betty.

You can’t swear and be a woman? My mum was taught some lovely words and expressions by her soldier dad and she was very feminine and girly! Did someone not tell princess Margaret either (I believe she could turn the air blue).

The Pink News men haven’t actually met any actual women have they? When did all that change? I know (women) people who worked there in the 90s when it was lesbians and gay men. Before the cuckoos.

Yes indeed.

"I need to pay someone and consciously learn how to fake being a woman because I'm a woman, even while I acknowledge that I am and have always been a privileged man."

Logic isn't exactly a strong point with these people is it.

it turns out that nails are porous and nail varnish suffocates them and it actually feels like that.

Omg. That's so true. Hadn't put two and two together before. I feel the same with lipstick. I still wear it now and again but feel my lips are being suffocated. I'm alright with expensive foundations but remember using the cheapy stuff as a teen at it felt like a suffocating mask

My nails never ever break ..... except if I have been wearing nail polish often over a couple of weeks. It seems to weaken the nails.