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Brighton Pride...omg

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SunsetBeetch · 05/07/2019 20:42

"Brighton’s FETISH March & Trans Pride.

Gendered Intelligence is crowdfunding to send children on a march alongside adult sexual fettishists, including masked pup play.

#Pride2019 WE SAY NO

@Genderintell @PupTouko @TPrideBrighton @marlboroughbtn t.co/QEwjHkVSWr "

twitter.com/BrightonResist1/status/1147213188506820608?s=19

"@Localgiving are you aware that your platform is being used to fund children to attend an adult fetish march?
One that encourages the children at an adult event attended by masked sexual fetishists? #puppyplay here is a range of images from the timeline of attendees #safeguarding t.co/bGetW0GD4n "

twitter.com/BrightonResist1/status/1147215356597014528?s=19

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Justhadathought · 06/07/2019 10:07

They are determined to sexualise children. It feels like this has been snuck in and gained a huge chunk of ground recently. I sincerely hope this is short-lived and people come to their senses soon

You only have to read through Peter Tatchell's pronouncements to see this is the case. It is all about validating homosexual male culture.

Justhadathought · 06/07/2019 10:11

The complex field of sexual fetish has absolutely nothing to do with the important arena of lesbian and gay rights

Except when no criticism of a marginalised community is permitted. That's how we ended up with the Rotherham child abuse scandal. Nobody wanted to be seen as racist or Islamophobic.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/07/2019 10:14

Lesbian sex wars aka feminists pointing out forms of commercial sex are abusive to women?

And please leave lavender out of it, there's a gardening section for that.

Wtf is GLBTQ?

http://www.glbtqarchive.com/ssh/lesbiansexxwarsS.pdf

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/07/2019 10:14

Because fetish is such a large part of the gay male scene, in particular.
That translates to, " No criticism or reflective thinking at all, when it comes to gay culture. It's all wonderful!"

Will the NSPCC be at pride?

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/07/2019 10:18

I don't fully understand that link I've linked as my background is not feminist theory.

I find the combination of the words lesbian with sex and war quite fucking shit if I'm honest.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/07/2019 10:46

Thanks for the link Neurotrash. At the risk of sounding like Camile Paglia, dear god we've become a decadent society, haven't we?

The complex field of sexual fetish has absolutely nothing to do with the important arena of lesbian and gay rights

Have you even heard of the lesbian sex wars?

so if I understand that link correctly, many radical feminists felt that BDSM was a means of reinforcing patriarchal control even when practised by lesbians.

and lib fems, including Pat Califa, whose name I recognised from [[https://medium.com/@doctorEm/the-trojan-unicorn-qt-and-paedophilia-part-ii-ee94e132fb5d Dr Em's queer theory article], and who looks to have had some pretty reprehensible views regarding 'children's sexuality', argued that choosy choice, if I want to do it it, it's fine, I'm totes not affected by being brought up in the patriarchy, there's no context to these decisions at all, no siree

I know nonexistantfox has stropped off to Pride, so probably no answer will be forthcoming

but I still don't see why this means I should be cool with having fetishists in bondage gear in my local play park

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/07/2019 10:46

fuck it, link fail

medium.com/@doctorEm/the-trojan-unicorn-qt-and-paedophilia-part-ii-ee94e132fb5d

SunsetBeetch · 06/07/2019 11:00

*BogglesGoggles

This is homophobia.*

What is?

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LangCleg · 06/07/2019 11:41

I know nonexistantfox has stropped off to Pride, so probably no answer will be forthcoming

Which is a shame because I really am interested in understanding quite why overturning Spanner requires linking up with child transition lobby groups.

Floomph · 06/07/2019 11:46

This is really disturbing

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/07/2019 11:47

I'm also interested in why overturning Spanner would be a good thing. It seems to me a good way of ensuring the BDSM activity is safe, sane and consensual

It seems that society's ingrained homophobia and sexism mean however that the ruling is applied to gay men, where 'sex game gone wrong' defenses often seem to get some traction in cases where men have murdered women

Ereshkigal · 06/07/2019 12:40

I'd like Spanner to be applied in cases when men "accidentally" kill women, not overturned.

Imnobody4 · 06/07/2019 18:13

Well the Lib Dems did fall for PIE ,nothing changes.

Brighton Pride...omg
Victoriapestis01 · 06/07/2019 20:24

R v Brown is regularly maligned. It would be really interesting to see a discussion of the role it may play in protecting vulnerable people. (Where’s that poster who brought it up gone to?)

For instance there have been ‘extreme body modification’ prosecutions recently that rest on R v Brown to at least some extent- people consenting to having their ears completely removed, say (it’s the person doing the removing who is liable to prosecution, on the basis that this level of harm cannot be consented to).

I don’t understand how against a background of R v Brown a dead woman can be taken by a court to have consented to extreme acts of sexual violence. If the act is criminal by virtue of R v Brown, would that not ground a murder conviction anyway (ie, consent is immaterial because it cannot affect criminal liability)?

(Clearly the reality is these poor women haven’t consented anyway, the whole thing is vile and grotesque, and a disgrace, I just don’t understand how the argument even has any legal effect against this legal background. Why is Brown not applied?)

WombOfOnesOwn · 06/07/2019 20:56

What has become crystal clear is that for most liberals who championed gay marriage, they DID see homosexuality as a fetish and a lifestyle choice. They just felt like all fetishes and lifestyle choices should be celebrated. They always thought gay and lesbian people were pervs, and they wanted to see more perversion, so they advocated for it.

That's the part that stings worst. It seems like they never really did believe gay and lesbian people were normal people who just wanted to live and love in peace. They 100% bought that gay and lesbian people actually DO recruit youngsters, and that gayness really does have to do with BDSM, and that this is so closely tied to gay culture that it can't be removed without destroying Pride.

When you make Pride into a "perverts unite" parade, and believe that anything else would be homophobic, you're pretty clearly showing what you think gay people are all about, and it's an ugly, backwards view of homosexuality that should have been stamped out long ago.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 06/07/2019 21:54

applauds Womb

homosexuality is not a fetish ffs

newtlover · 06/07/2019 23:40

I think you're right, Womb
I think this also explains how T came to be included with LGB, or rather, how the rest of the world took it as obvious that T belonged with LGB because, ewww, sex, innit.
L,G, B =sex, yuck, rude, naughty, genitals
T=genitals, rude
therefore, LGB=T
QED
except, not.

newtlover · 06/07/2019 23:41

of course this only works if you think that sex is a bit disgusting really but unfortunately I think many people have not truly progressed past this 8 yo view

NotTerfNorCis · 06/07/2019 23:44

BBC pics from London pride show middle-aged men dressed as little girls and babies (near bottom of article). www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48893187 Each to their own but how long is it going to be before adult babies start turning up in the workplace and demanding special treatment? There's already been a case involving an 'adult baby' at university.www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5089529/University-failed-male-student-baby-role-play-fetish.html

Ereshkigal · 06/07/2019 23:49

Absolutely Womb

DuchessSybilVimes · 07/07/2019 09:37

Yes, exactly what womb said. Exactly.

hoodathunkit · 07/07/2019 09:57

I find this article on transgender issues and self-ID in the Russian propaganda site RT to be very interesting
(archived for safety)

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190707083620/www.rt.com/op-ed/341590-children-gender-identity-toys-boys/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20190707083620/www.rt.com/op-ed/341590-children-gender-identity-toys-boys/

The author, Sam Gerrans, is a very controversial man who gives credence to satanic ritual abuse conspiracy theories.

The reason I am linking to this piece is that it demonstrates clearly that the current situation re self-ID allows propagandists to portray the UK as a seething hotbed of perversion where children are at risk from fetishists.

This is a dangerous situation on many levels.

For the avoidance of doubt;

I do not think that all fetishists are a danger to children

I think that what consenting adults get up to is their own business and nobody else's

I believe thatminors should not be exposed to adult sexual activity, whether fetish orientated or not

I am posting this because I believe that we need to be vigilant about the ways that the transgender agenda plays into anti-UK narratives in relation to international politics, especially given Brexit and the UK increasing isolation internationally

hoodathunkit · 07/07/2019 10:05

Just in case anyone says "do you have evidence of Gerrans promoting satanic ritual abuse conspiracy theories?"

Here is Gerrans promoting the Hampstead SRA hoax

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/save/www.rt.com/op-ed/316642-youtube-art-investigation-research/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/save/www.rt.com/op-ed/316642-youtube-art-investigation-research/

hoodathunkit · 07/07/2019 10:18

Also worthy of examination by anyone interested in international relations, propaganda, social engineering etc. is narratives re gender and sex in cults / NRMs emanating from former communist territories in Eastern Europe.

The narratives are very much focussed on biological sex and of the linking of sexual characterises to nature.

Transgender issues and even departure from sex and gender stereotypes is considered unnatural and indicative of demonic forces.

Any exploration of self-ID should really only be considered in relation to the other prevalent narratives in which women are considered passive, spiritual, enfolding, yin etc. and men are considered to be active, dominant warriors.

I will be publishing material on this subject soon

Smearing enemies with allegations of sexual crimes and perversions is nothing new.

We did it in the UK with the Political Warfare Executive as can be seen in this fascinating but deeply disturbing documentary revealing long classified, formerly secret activities

Sex and the swastika (contains very disturbing scenes - viewer discretion advised)

also see
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_Warfare_Executive

hoodathunkit · 07/07/2019 10:58

re cultic narratives about what it means to be a woman

please find the below video from a vast, extremely dangerous criminal network operating in multiple territories internationally. The video was created by the Mexican branch of network that is active in many territories internationally but that started in Russia

This network has created various schools and training organisations, in this instance this is a "goddess school" where women are taught how to be "goddesses" and "real women" (brainwashed slaves and sex workers)

Unfortunately this network is one of many operating in a similar way

just giving women a heads up about these dangerous groups that promise empowerment but deliver slavery, violence, blackmail and unimaginable abuses

My point is that it is not only that women's rights and identities are being eroded via the transgender agenda, our rights and identities are being eroded via networks that promote narratives about being a woman that are at the opposite end of the spectrum to the transgender agenda

Staying thinking is important, but our capacity to think can be harmed by this odious bullshit.

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