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Lancaster Pride Expose: It's here!

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Lucky222 · 01/07/2019 14:26

We have lift off with Lancaster Pride expose!

Included is full video of protest. What happened: fairplayforwomen.com/pride/

Why protest was organised: resistersunited.org/blog/

Puppy fetishists breaking saefguarding: resistersunited.org/blog/

Please retweet with if original tweet: #Lancaster Pride #PrideShame #JoinTheResisterance

Thank you lovely Mumsnet for your support on this.

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summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:24

This is part of a broad trend. Similar happened at Bradford Pride also.

Gay men tired to block the lesbians from protesting.

Some fantastic mansplaining going on here - gay men telling a lesbian she's doing lesbianism all wrong Hmm

When we entered the event and held our banners up we were approached by people asking why we were there and by some young lesbians that wanted a photo with the banner. We spoke to one person who said we had no place at Pride — we disagreed but it was a civil discussion.

Then came a transgender woman who wanted to stand in front of our banner and shout at us, before leaving to speak from the stage. The crowd were told that we were bigoted and showing intolerance and not welcome at Pride. This had the desired effect, almost no-one approached us after this except to try to make us leave. It is a tactic that is becoming very familiar — to stop people questioning the narrative put forward by transactivists, stifle discussion and cast lesbians and women trying to stand up for their rights as hateful bigots.

After Pride’s opening speeches, some men came over to try to get us to leave, when we refused they attempted to cover our banners with transgender flags. A gay man came over to explain that lesbians have no right to oppress transgender women by refusing to have relationships with them.

A video of that exchange was recorded and even watching it back I can see a man looming over a woman on a mobility scooter trying to intimidate her. Gay men telling lesbians that they are bigoted to want same-sex relationships. A group of large men telling women to be quiet and capitulate to what men believe is right. Who is oppressing who here?

Lesbians are peacefully protesting LGBT prides because they have been excluded from their own communities. Lesbians must either accept that male bodies and attitudes are female or be shunned. I asked one of the angry men where he thought homosexual women should go, he walked off and came back with a group of large men and some flags to try to cover our banners. That he couldn’t answer me was revealing. He accepts that being a homosexual is now transphobic and that my right to a relationship with a woman I love must be sacrificed to gender ideology, but presumably either lacks the empathy to see the issue with that or perhaps the courage to stand up for the rights of homosexuals at a Pride event.

Pride was historically about civil rights, somewhere down the line it became fluff, a party, and an opportunity for corporate entities to show off how inclusive they are. Lesbians cannot join in with this party while even LGBT organisations deem female homosexuality transphobic. Pride marches should be a catalyst for lesbians to draw attention to the prejudice and discrimination they face, even when it comes from within the LGBT community.

More here:
medium.com/@boudiccarises/bradford-pride-2019-getthelout-11e1f8708a13.

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Weezol · 02/07/2019 01:30

When I was young we were only worried about nuclear subs in UK bases and little things like ww3 breaking out.

I was only thinking a similar thing the other day. Ah, the halcyon days when all we had to fear was the nuclear winter and Thatcher. I feel quite nostalgic about it really - those days when the Labour party gave a toss about the working class and knew what a woman was.

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:32

And again, similar on Edinburgh on the same day as Lancaster Pride.

Contrary to some accounts I have seen, we were not booed at the rally. There was an act of physical aggression when an angry young person grabbed a placard I was holding and tried to rip it up, shouting “TERF” in my face, but this was quickly handled by stewards and police liaison and I’ve honestly faced down worse violence from violent men than a ripped placard.

Kind of goes with the female terroritory, sad to say.

But what did chill me and did stir some actual fear for how I and the others might fare on Pride was the speeches given by MSPs from the top of the open top bus. In particular the words of Patrick Harvie, Green MSP, where he felt the need to apologise for the democratic workings of Parliament, and the decision taken this week to put the brakes on GRA reform until the full due consideration and further deliberation by a broad range of groups affected by these reforms and, importantly, the conflation of sex and gender that has infested our policy making.

He said, “I am sorry that this parliament very recently was used as a platform for transphobic hatred and bigotry”.

This whipped the crowd up onto a bit of a frenzy, since they had already been primed by the previous speeches that whilst the “theme” of this year’s Pride is “Be Yourself”, the main focus (as it’s been for several years) isn’t about the right to love and express that love without prejudice, it is about “trans rights” front and centre.

I can’t remember the last time Lesbians were ever front and centre in anything LGBTQI+++ related – can you?

So, the need for Lesbians taking space IN PRIDE is pressing. For we are being erased.

I felt Patrick Harvie’s speech inflamed an already dangerous situation for Lesbians on Pride. It did make me fearful, since immediately after, some people started shouting about getting the ‘TERFs’ out – it was obvious they meant us. We had already been blocked in by some very tall people wearing ‘Trans’ and ‘Non-Binary’ flags draped over their shoulders – quite literally and intentionally making us and our ‘Lesbian Visibility’ banners invisible.

Thanks to the spittle infused rhetoric espoused by Patrick Harvie MSP, our situation went from hostile to dangerous. I thought politicians had some standards in public life to stick to. Certainly, I don’t expect them to inflame the flames and put people (Lesbians) in danger of mob attack.

I was dismayed to find out later that my sisters who joined the march were harassed by marchers behind them, had bells rung and whistles painfully blown in their ears and even had a missile thrown at them in the shape of a juice bottle, that fortunately missed them but unfortunately hit a tourist photographing the parade.

They left the march of their own volition; unwilling to make their selves a target for hate any longer and fearing that the bells and whistles might turn into blows or worse.

It was obvious this would happen. The marchers had been well and truly whipped up into a ‘righteous’ anger by our MSPs and others who spoke from that open-top bus at the pre march rally.

The rally where Lesbians were intentionally blocked-in and made invisible.

Where women were told they were bigots for standing up for Female Rights and expecting our politicians to do the same;

Where it was made crystal clear to us that LESBIANS ARE NOT ONLY NO LONGER WELCOME BUT ARE NO LONGER SAFE AT PRIDE.

More here: womansplaceuk.org/2019/06/23/lesbians-at-edinburgh-pride-a-personal-account/

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summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:38

And here's a lesbian protester being forcibly removed from Swansea Pride.

Yesterday around 11.15 pm, two of us marched in front of the Swansea pride with banners

Our banners stated: “transactivism erases lesbians” and “lesbians don’t have penises”.

We walked in front of the march but backwards so that the banners would be visible to the demonstrators including to the security staff and to the police.

We did not stop walking or delay the parade.

Immediately we were faced by police and security staff who physically stood in front of us and we felt aggression and hostility from their part.

The security and police tried to manhandle us, touched us on several occasions, touched our banners and tried to take them down and told us repeatedly that we had to leave.

We asked: “Are lesbians not allowed on this march?” and got no answers.

We asked why we were asked to leave that we had a right to be here as it is a public place. We were told we were “spoiling” the parade.

The police and security pressure intensified.

We kept marching backwards and felt threatened, as the police/security staff was touching us.

One of the lesbians said: ”don’t touch me – stand back”.

The other lesbian was cornered by several officers and sat down.

The police officers then grabbed the lesbian on the floor and removed her from the march to the side of the march.

The whole episode was very quick, a few minutes in total.

After having been removed we stood on the side of the march holding our banners and chanting pro-lesbian statements
More police officers joined to stand in front of us.

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:48

A common theme from Lancaster, Bradford and Edinburgh Prides is that the push back - and even intimidation, was encouraged by those involved in organising or appearing as guests at Pride.

At Lancaster, the CEO of Lancaster Pride (who do we have CEOs of Pride anyway?!) called the women "fucking dogs" and told them they were ruining it. He encouraged the protesters, as did drag queen performer Ivy Rose.

At Edinburgh, MSP Patrick Harvie’s speech "inflamed an already dangerous situation for Lesbians on Pride".

And at Swansea, the police removed the protesters.

Transgenderism is being enforced on women. It's not a grass roots movement. It's coming down from above, and "woke" people play along like the good little girls and boys in the Lancaster video.

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 01:51

I find it astounding how attitudes within the LGBT community have changed so fast. And worrying how much effort there seems to be, to recruit kids into this misogynistic and homophobic way of thinking.

The average age of the Lancaster Pride crowd was really young. Which also begs they question - who thought a puppy fetish tent was appropriate at an event with so many unaccompanied minors? Robert Mee, the manager presumably did.

What does he know or care about safeguarding? Not much it would seem.

How can this be OK? Kids were encouraged to interact with the men in their fetish get up. (One had a visible erection).

But lesbians aren't welcome to assert that they're same sex attracted, at Pride? What on earth is going on here?

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VaggieMight · 02/07/2019 01:58

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 02/07/2019 07:38

If shouting abuse at people for being open about their sexual orientation is not homophobia, then what the fuck is?

seriously, how the ever loving fuck can STONEWALL be ok with this?

summerofresistance · 02/07/2019 07:46

Stonewall are driving this Sad

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 07:50

Never seen a fury female or woman dressed like a dog. Always hefty males. Covering their faces.

Funny that.

SunsetBeetch · 02/07/2019 14:36

twitter.com/SatiriaNews/status/1145785203975172096?s=19

#Pride re-brands with more inclusive #LGBWTF acronym. t.co/MTM9S8RNt4

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 15:47

Ok so bluey may be female. Pretty sure the rest...

R0wantrees · 02/07/2019 16:00

previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3625317-Lancaster-Pride-19-Expose

R0wantrees · 02/07/2019 16:01

It's chilling to see young girls so enthusiastically embracing misogyny, without even being aware that's what they're doing.

Girls & young women have been manipulated /groomed.

placemats · 02/07/2019 16:08

Girls & young women have been manipulated /groomed.

I would also add boys and young men too.

BeansandRice · 02/07/2019 17:30

Ugh. That's my home town (although I left as a young adult), and I appreciate the irony of Pride in Dalton Square by the statue of Queen Victoria. ALL the other people in that statue are men (except for George Eliot and the Queen).

The banishment of women continues in that video - the hatred of lesbians - and women more generally - is sick-making. I found it really hard to watch.

Lesbians have been the stalwarts of the women's movement and gay liberation. Gay men did the flashy stuff - the lesbians got on and organised:
refuges
Rape crisis organisations
Support for women in public life
Support for gay men with HIV/AIDS

And this is the way the gay movement thanks them?

It's utterly utterly appalling.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 17:37

I may have mentioned once or twice my deep sustain for the thieving of the rainbow for trendy nonsense.

This caught me eye on twitter and made me cackle.

Apparently
^‘Exposure to excessive levels of boron may cause:

⚠️ Irritation
⚠️ Diarrhoea
⚠️ Vomiting
⚠️ Cramps

The EU also states that exposure to very high levels of boron may impair fertility.’^

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 17:37

Destain not suatain!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 02/07/2019 17:37

Oh bloody hell autocorrect can’t spell...

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 19:23

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Eaudear · 02/07/2019 19:25

Oh for gods sake, I posted my post on the wrong thread so I reported it and copied it, but it seems I copied the whole page!!!

Eaudear · 02/07/2019 19:32

I'll try again:

Yes, those young girls should come back when they have had a couple of kids, been through the crap of post partum everything, breastfeeding etc, been the one expected to mainly look after their kids whilst also looking after the household and also trying to have a successful 'career' , been put down the pecking order at work, been on hormonal contraception for years and want to come off it but their husband is being a baby about getting the snip, have had years of low level harassment from blokes and so on and so on.

Then see where their priorities lie.

I'm sure at least some of them will look back on this and criiiiiiinge.

placemats · 02/07/2019 19:40

Those young girls and boys are all being told that anyone over the age of 20 is spent goods, sexually, and that they are the best. It's sexual grooming from an early age. In the open.

placemats · 02/07/2019 19:42

The Jimmy Saviles' never end. They never go away.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/07/2019 22:15

Beansandrice I'm wondering if the lesbophobia is because lesbians have been such great activists. It's a neat trick getting youngsters to ignore the only group that is acting in their interests.

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