Stonewall protest, July 5th

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I live no where near London, but it'd be great if they got a big turn out!

And alongside this we see a wider shift in the tenor of debate. An emphasis on single issues, sometimes to the detriment of real consideration of different perspectives and willingness to find that working consensus, putting children’s interests first.

I spoke recently about the challenges children face in this new ‘if you’re not with me, you’re against me’ age: where there is a lack of tolerance of divergent views and where this intolerance is entrenched in the echo chamber of social media.

Very interesting.......

And we don’t endorse a particular approach, but we do and we will continue to defend the rights of schools to decide how they meet their obligations, after consulting with parents.

Consultation is not taking place though, parents do not feel they have a say.

The other issue I have with the speech was the bit about the cathiolic girl denied an education - appalling. The context it was used and the wording of later paragraphs in relation to it didnt sit quite right.

"But as we know from many controversies of the past and of the present, the important rights we have established, and that we protect, are not in reality completely separable from each other. The exercise of one right can sometimes be seen as limiting of another right. The different protected characteristics can and do bump into each other. Many of the other rights are stoutly defended, just as Stonewall defends LGBT rights.

"And Ofsted’s position, as the checking mechanism of equality, means we are obliged to make decisions in situations where the different protected characteristics are colliding."

This was excellent. And these two bits even better:

"I spoke recently about the challenges children face in this new ‘if you’re not with me, you’re against me’ age: where there is a lack of tolerance of divergent views and where this intolerance is entrenched in the echo chamber of social media."

"And teach them about the wonderful diversity of humanity in modern Britain: a diversity of race, gender, faith and love."

She has chosen her words exceptionally well. What a clever woman.

I am so relieved that a Stonewall event speech re education has been about sexual orientation. (Stonewall will hate that)

I have with the speech was the bit about the cathiolic girl denied an education

Agreed - hence my uneasiness and lack of optimism concerning Spielman's plausible actions in the future.

I will try to articulate my thoughts re the Catholic girl story in the speech.

To me it said the parents and religious groups were in the wrong - in the story absolutely. However in the trans juggernaut, queer theory times we live in it is inferring again that the parents and religious groups are wrong and the therefore the T and queer theory right. An individual child has the right to believe their body is wrong - Scotland has just u-turned on keeping transition a secret from parents, not sure rest I'm UK has even done that! With queer theory it becomes even more concerning- the child's right to a sexual relationship maybe?

I'm In addition this is one speech in a wider context of less moderated speeches. Those other speeches going into the detail of a child's right to be trans and to be affirmed, medicated...

"Many of the other rights are stoutly defended, just as Stonewall defends LGBT rights."

Yeah, maybe, well, not so much any more.
They have redefined lesbian and gay to be same gender attraction. They have said nothing about the whistle blowers at the Tavistock stating that homosexual kids (particularly lesbians) are being pressured to be trans.
Stonewall no longer represent homosexuals.

Ooh thanks Ro.

This bit:

*I spoke recently about the challenges children face in this new ‘if you’re not with me, you’re against me’ age: where there is a lack of tolerance of divergent views and where this intolerance is entrenched in the echo chamber of social media.

I stand by the solution that I suggested then: arm our children with knowledge. Teach them well. Prepare them for a modern world, in which many people will try to tell them what to think, by giving them the knowledge to contextualise those arguments and the skills to express their own views and put them into action.*

Teach critical thinking...

Sorry to interrupt - don't know if you are all aware - the protesters have been kicked out of the bar at the National Theatre because of a 'lesbian' t shirt. Now the police have been called.

The media need to pick this up.
Was this a "lesbian = female homosexual" t-shirt?
Any more details?
Have the police been called against lesbians again?

What!? An MP can wear a t-shirt inviting people to pee next to them but lesbian t-shirts a barred? Do they have a dress code? Who called the police?

Yes - it was Anne ruyzlo [sp?] in a dictionary definition T. I believe Joani Walsh is on the case. Still seems ongoing.

To be fair - they were sitting on chairs!

Who called the police? The lesbians for blatant discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? Or some woke student because the word ‘lesbian’ makes them feel unsafe?

Evidence:
twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1147186976510087169

I believe the bar at the National theatre called them.

Ah chairs. Well they deserve everything they get then

How can the bar possibly justify this?
Blatant open discrimination against a lesbian.
I hope the police told them where to shove their complaints - Anne should prosecute the bar in retaliation.

I know that bars can kick people out randomly if they want, but not so sure they can actually say it is because they are lesbians who are stating their boundaries - surely that can't stand?

If the dictionary definition of a lesbian offendeds the woke stasi then that sounds like they don't really believe TWAW. How very transphobic of them.

They can kick random people out, they can’t kick out a group identified by their protected characteristic because they have identified their protected characteristic.

The bar that apparently objects to lesbians is The Green Room at the National Theatre.

#LesbiansOnChairs

#FuckLesbophobia

#IAmFeelingRatherPugnaciousTonight

This is chilling. When in history have people been refused service because of their perceived inferiority to the status quo?