The trans stuff has opened my eyes to our real status

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Jus that really. A minuscule amount of men have managed to pushed through legislation that impacts on and endangers half the population . Nobody even bothered to ask women if this was ok with us. Laws our made without our knowledge and consent.

The police are arresting women for online tweets, while women getting beaten up and damaged and given aids by men in pornography, but nobody arrests those men for hate crimes because pornography is "free speech".

Yes let's be clear on that one. Men can do whatever they want to women in porn and put it online and defend the violence of porn in the name of free speech . But a woman tweeting on Twitter is literal violence. And the police agree with all of this.

The there's the total media blackout on women's opinions and voices. The Times seems to be doing an ok job at the moment but not really.

I could go on. I had no idea how easily our rights could be taken away, and I also didn't have a clue how much we were hated, ignored, dismissed, mocked, ridiculed by society.

cis is a delete-able term.

@MrsSpenserGregson I know , it's just so horrible that women can be called all kinds of misogynistic slurs all over the internet and that's fine. Porn ( which I consider a violent hate crime) is also fine. Death threats from transwomen towards us. Fine.
But women stating biological facts- hurts feelings and makes the privileged uncomfortable and unwelcome, ergo not fine.

Do transwomen think women feel welcome online by pornographers who make gonzo porn or whatever it is ( I read about it in Gail Dines' book, never seen it thankfully but I know if I google it, it'll be there) . Porn alienates women, it's a misogynistic hate crime that doesn't just incite violence ( which we know it does- there's a link between men who view porn and and sex crimes) it actually is rape and violence.

That we are being admonished for not making them feel welcome here is just ..... I can't....

I'll stand with Posie on that twicemummy1!

I read Vox a little while ago. I imagine this is how it started.

I picked that up a week or so in Tesco because it was in the two for £8 offer with Good Omens but I haven’t started it yet.

Without giving too many spoilers what’s it like?

I can't find a definition of goady other than this.

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goady

Obviously women, reign it in! Shut up!

Talk only about NICE things.

Vox is really good. Very much about policing language for women only. I'm not giving too much away by saying that women get a wristband which gives an electric shock when they speak over 100 words per day. Some male characters in it don't like this but they don't do anything to fight for the women. It's interesting to see what happens when one women's knowledge is needed and how she fights against the rules.

I love dystopian fiction and if you put it together with Women Power (will check title) and Handmaids Tale we basically have our future written for us.

Sorry it's called The Power by Naomi Alderman.

I'm joining women only kickboxing club soon, to prepare myself for any terminator-style battles (had to check it was really women only first though).

like a saggy-titted harridan version of The Terminator when it comes to this fight - I simply will not stop.

I’m with you! Tits and all!

I simply HAVE to come in here because, forty-odd years ago when I was a teenager in my first job I worked alongside a woman twice my age who was gently teaching me about feminism.

One thing she said that I found impossible to believe was her claim that, despite everything that women had achieved over the previous few decades, men could at any time take some or all of it away if they wanted to. When I scoffed she asked me, "Who would stop them?" I can still remember my reply all these years later.

I said, "But we have female MPs now, and female barristers, even a few judges. And councillors and police and teachers and suchlike. And women have the vote, so even male MPs could not just wipe out our rights."

"And anyway", I went on, "if they started changing laws or taking away what we'd won, women would go on strike, take to the streets, etc."

I walked away from that discussion thinking she was paranoid.

OMG where are you now, Sandy? I'm so sorry I scoffed at you because it's happening, and all the safeguards that I listed, that I thought were in place, turned out to be chocolate fireguards. We even have loads of women judges, law lords, ministers, chiefs of police, even more female MPs, and even a female Prime Minister, and yet it's happening.

@AlwaysComingHome Dark, disturbing, and getting far too close to home. It's a great read though; a strong female protagonist and a plot that keeps you turning pages. Enjoy!

@OhHolyJesus @AlwaysComingHome Definitely read The Power too. Perhaps after Vox as it's almost an opposite society at the beginning; women are born with 'skeins' across their chests capable of discharging electric shocks. Obviously men feel threatened by this and try to shut it down...