Gaby Hinsliff asking if anyone's changed voting intentions bcs if self ID

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Worth tweeting her if the answer is yes. twitter.com/gabyhinsliff/status/1138815208712003584?s=21

Not outing myself on twitter (I need to start a separate GC account I think) but lifelong Labour voter here who spoiled her ballot paper for the first time in the council elections with a WAHF sticker. I will not vote for any party who does not recognise what a woman is. So at the moment - totally homeless.

How about starting a FWR party?

Oh yes - Gaby if you're reading, I cancelled my Guardian subscription, too.

My love for Hadley Freeman, Marina Hyde et al is still deep, but I'm not handing over money to a paper that refuses to cover women's rights in any other way than 'Oo look at the big meanies/bigots'.

Yes. I've tended to vote Green over the past few years but have been put off. The self ID but was huge and in your face on their website.

Currently politically homeless here. I think my Labour MP may be GC, but I can’t vote for a party that has such a cavalier attitude to women’s sex-based rights and political representation. Historically, have voted Labour and occasionally LD tactically. Not in the party so no opportunity to signal my “fuck you” by resigning. Likely to spoil my ballot at the next election for the first time in nearly 30 years of diligent voting, and that saddens and enrages me in equal measure.

I am not on Twitter by the way.

Cancelled Labour membership and Guardian subscription over the attack on women's rights. Not sure about renewing my TV licence either, as BBC are worse than all of them.

BBC and Guardian can sometimes bring themselves to address women's rights if the women in question are not in a western country. They don't appear to understand how racist this attitude is, that they think only Western men have somehow grown out of their misogynist ways.

This isn't above your fucking pay grade, Gaby.

How much do you think those of us out fighting it on the ground are getting??

Always voted Labour and thought I always would. Until they totally abandoned women and decided to give away their rights to be 'inclusive' Unfortunately, no other party seems better on this, i would love to vote WEP but they seem as far down the rabbit hole as anyone and if a party thats actually named womens equality party cannot stand up for women, noone will.

The only party I have seen be against self ID is UKIP, and like fuck am I voting for them.

I resigned membership of the SNP over this last year, but I did vote for them in the European election. Hoping against hope that the newly raised voices will be listened to.

Yes. I have always been a Labour voter but I cancelled my Labour membership last year. There is no party who I could vote for now. I am not on Twitter.

Conservatives - the greatest betrayers of Women and Children

In coalition, under David Cameron and Theresa May, a Conservative government embedded self i/d by stealth into government policy.

M Miller MP tried to introduce a self i/d Gender Bill that was (thankfully) scuppered by a General Election and the suspension of Parliament.

Turns a blind eye to the Great Untested Experiment on children.

Promises enquiries, never delivers. Ministers and MPs refuse to debate, discuss or account for their anti-women and children measures.

Conservative MPS and Peers are in thrall to Trans pressure groups. A Conservative government outsourced the making of policy to organisations like Gendered Intelligence. It required the police, NHS, Criminal Justice system, and local councils to get some training and policy advice from the likes of Stonewall and Mermaids.

Only one Conservative MP has demonstrated a willingness to challenge, probe and question the Government's mantra that transwomen are women. We have to assume that the rest are happy with the situation, or failing to do their jobs by airing concerns.

The Coalition and Conservative party have been trashing women's position in the UK for years. There is a policy environment where funding and support can be withdrawn unless women's spaces and services include men.

You would think that this scandalous stealth-like damage would be an open goal for Opposition and other parties to exploit.
No chance - they too have a shameful disregard for the Woman Question.

Lifelong labour voter, I lent the Lib Dems my vote once to keep the Tories out, but that didn’t work out so well.

I’m relatively new to all this, partly thanks to also being a lifelong Guardian reader.

Thanks to FWR my eyes are open. I reluctantly voted Lib Dem in the European elections as I saw it primarily as an anti-Brexit vote.

I think I’d take one of my adult human female stickers and stick it on the ballot if there’s a GE.

I've changed vote and have made my thoughts known locally to LDs who I know social.

All think the party policy is bullshit - but don't know what it is - and think that what I'm saying is nonsense.

I had a private conversation with a very senior ld in which he admitted bullying in the party was an issue whilst discussing this subject. And seemed find with that, as nothing has been done... i despaired at that conversation.

Others have said 'oh well its not a priority right now. only brexit matters.' They have all been men - men who've at one time or another gone on about how they are all stale, male and pale and how difficult it is to get women of a certain age (you know the ones with children) to get involved with the party.

I am so fed up of the shit the LDs come out with over this. Its not liberal its not democratic.

I've seen the stitch up that happened with the Radical Association close up. That was just nasty, authoritarian close minded bullshit with more than a hint of bullying at its heart.

And don't get me started on Labour or the Greens either. Just. Words.

Not on Twitter but yes: Labour voter all my life, now wouldn't touch Labour or the Greens with a bargepole. They have sold women down the river in a number of ways. The WEP can get lost, too.

If anyone were to start a proper women's party, one run by and for adult human females with feminism as a guiding principle and without people with penises involved I would vote for it like a shot.

Not on Twitter and no intention of joining.
I've always voted Labour but now feel politically homeless.
A party coming out with coherent policies around inclusion without sacrificing women's rights would get my vote.

Someone may have pointed Gaby to this thread...

shifty eyes

Well done! You'd make a brilliant spy

If Gaby is reading I would like her to know that I refuse to read her newspaper having been placed in pre-moderation for pro-women” posts being moderated, not* anti-trans. And now Owen Jones has taken the misogyny to a new level. I want the Guardian to be strong enough to post a pro-women’s rights piece, open it to comments, and don’t let the TRAs report comments that support women.

But it won’t, because the paper is spineless, and Viner seems to be missing in action.

Yes
Not on Twitter

I've cancelled Labour Party membership over women's rights. DH has done the same. Will not vote for any party that prioritises wokery over women's rights and child protection and, as Pam notes, that includes the Tories.

Oh, and I never click a Grauniad link.

Have voted Green Lib Dem and Labour in past elections.

Voted Change UK in last election as felt Anna Soubry would know what a woman is.

Feel very upset by the abandonment of single sex provisions by the main 4 parties in England. Feel politically homeless at present

Inebriati - might be a better spy if I didn't post here to gloat under a nearly identical username, buuuut I'm still pretty safe considering I am self-employed and use separate GC accounts/email for everything anyway, haha.

I've been keeping an eye on her comments, and they seem to be (as she says) fairly lopsided. Wouldn't it be amazing if political representatives realized that there are sane, non-hateful people out there who have genuine concerns about the effects of this policy? People who can be reasoned with, if only you were willing to engage?

I cancelled my Lib Dem membership and direct debit over self ID. I wrote to them to explain why and got an email back about how mean I was and how transpeople are the most oppressed in our society. I hadn't even mentioned anything about the relative oppression of women and transpeople, I was talking about safeguarding women's rights to define themselves as a class for the purpose of proving sex-based discrimination.