Dr Em The Trojan Unicorn, Queer Theory and Paedophilia

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Excellent article(s) on the connection between queer theory and Paedophilia.

Read it before it disappears from Medium

medium.com/@doctorEm/the-trojan-unicorn-queer-theory-and-paedophilia-part-i-a0cf30ef7bfa

Thanks for that link dr em! The Sheila Jefferys book is very illuminating!

Somer Brodribb, Nothing Matters: A Feminist Critique of Postmodernism, is also brilliant. Available here: www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Somer-Brodribb-Nothing-Matters.-A-Feminist-Critique-of-Postmodernism.pdf

Always, if you can, please request these books into your local library to get them on the shelves.

This is an amazing series of articles. Anyone who hasn’t read them please do so.

Don’t be put off if you think there will be too much jargon; there really isn’t. Everything is spelt out in easy to follow terms.

So if sexual abuse is having children do things with their bodies that frighten them or make them uncomfortable, does that mean any adult trying to tell a child to use the bathroom next to a trans individual of the opposite sex is sexually abusing them if the child feels uncomfortable?

Thanks Always, i try to filter the jargon into understandable language.
Brilliant point Womb (an aside, I love your name).

I think the reason QT has triumphed in academia and institutions is it is always hard to go up against men's sexual entitlement. As feminists did, queer theory emerged as a backlash. Since then with its ever increasing inroads into academia, if academics didn't bow they risked not getting funding, not getting contracts renewed. Now, younger scholars coming up risk not getting passed if they don't support queer theory and mention certain authors.

In my opinion, the academy created an image that once women were admitted and allowed to be awarded degrees and take academic positions that sexism in HE was solved. This has hidden the fact that those higher up have been male and set the terms of correct thinking, the external funders have also been male and set the terms of research and what questions shall be asked. For example, as soon as feminist thought got a foot hold and was being listened to (women's studies) it was kneecapped and replaced with 'gender studies'.

An idea i'm still solidifying is that it may be no-coincidence that as the CSA Inquiry has kicked off and historic sexual abuse is being talked about and given pages in the press an ideology has come to dominate which changes the terms of abuse and challenges the age of informed consent.

Desperate to save these somewhere. Can't seem to download on the links?

In my opinion, the academy created an image that once women were admitted and allowed to be awarded degrees and take academic positions that sexism in HE was solved. This has hidden the fact that those higher up have been male and set the terms of correct thinking, the external funders have also been male and set the terms of research and what questions shall be asked. For example, as soon as feminist thought got a foot hold and was being listened to (women's studies) it was kneecapped and replaced with 'gender studies'.

There is nothing to argue with here, imo. ^

I think the reason QT has triumphed in academia and institutions is it is always hard to go up against men's sexual entitlement. As feminists did, queer theory emerged as a backlash.

I agree with this. If men no longer own individual women via patriarchy, they just try to own them all.

Agreed. Loved your recent safeguarding work Lang.

Thank you!

An unintended consequence of women's liberation from ownership patriarchy. I suppose we should have seen it coming really. Sigh.

the astonishing thing is the women that subscribe to queer theory. it's baffling

Well, QT reifies existing power relations while pretending it doesn't. Clearly that's going to wash better in upper middle class academia than it is among the lessers.

the astonishing thing is the women that subscribe to queer theory. it's baffling

Why is it astonishing? And why is it baffling? To put the questions right back at you.

i dunno really. it seems so obviously a men's sexual rights movement. why would women put themselves out for that? we've had some women posting here who are passionate advocates of QT

but then I guess there are always women who will conspire with patriarchy. it's just another level of self delusion, because the advocates that post here always think they're so progressive

I think most of the people I know who really embrace queer theory are women. There really does seem to be something about it that appeals to them.

I found the articles really useful, though I though the third section was a little weaker, it felt like the author couldn't resist making sarcastic comments any more, and while I generally agreed they distracted me from the main text. I alway found myself thinking that there needs to be some discussion generally around the idea of teens as children with regard to their participation in sex and ability to consent. There are such profound differences between someone of 13 and 19, I don't know if its useful to lump them together. Perhaps the author was only thinking of teens under the age of consent but it was unclear to me if I should be reading it that way or not.

I was really surprised how recently some of the people discussed had been writing.

I think most of the people I know who really embrace queer theory are women. There really does seem to be something about it that appeals to them.

Maybe it's a control thing? In that it provides some illusionary feeling of the world being on your terms because you shaped it so.

I haven't thought that argument through - just musing out loud.

I think most people are thrown by the term Queer Theory. Because ‘queer’ was a term thrown at gay people, and because gay people adopted the label to ‘take it back’, I think most of us just thought Queer Theory was about gay rights.

Or they don't know what it means at all. I mentioned it in passing to my sister recently, and she was shocked, thinking it was a slur.

Maybe it's a control thing? In that it provides some illusionary feeling of the world being on your terms because you shaped it so.

It might be. Some of them seem to really like the idea of being able to do what they want sexually. All seem to really have a very undeveloped idea of what it means to be "free".

I know men who think similarly but they don't tend to theorise about it, they just do it.

The trojan unicorn is such a brilliant way to describe this phenomenon.

Maybe it's a control thing? In that it provides some illusionary feeling of the world being on your terms because you shaped it so.

I think, consciously or subconsciously, some women decide to take the route to give up on "beating" men/patriarchy and instead look to a route to power/influence by limiting the exertion of it to other women. Risk/reward strategy?

Sorry Goosefoot there is only so much I can take before sarcasm and when Califia is claiming that the post office was in a giant homophobic conspiracy I felt I dealt with hose arguments with the respect and gravity they deserved - a.k.a sarcasm. From now on I will endeavour to be as dry and boring as possible and crush my spirit.

There is indeed a difference between 13 year olds and 19 year olds. As the authors consistently mention they are talking about children. The paedophile apologists themselves did try to move the goal posts and talk about older teens but they keep coming back to justifying raping children. I was not lumping them in together.

It seems to me that "Queer Theory" is a label given to the male desire for a sexually anarchic world .. no boundaries of any kind, at any time, in any place.

Maybe it's a control thing? In that it provides some illusionary feeling of the world being on your terms because you shaped it so.

I made myself read the article on the prostasia website on age related play (or something like that). This woman was saying how much she liked playing a small girl because it gave her release from the responsibilities of everyday life. I think some women find having to take responsibility for themselves quite challenging in a society where previously they have not necessarily had to do that. Legitimising alternative realities (particularly when sex is involved too) maybe gives an escape route.