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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alison Moyet is back...

101 replies

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 29/05/2019 15:47

...and she’s gender non conforming and rejecting cis! Go Alf!

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justju · 30/05/2019 13:39

I am so pleased, and hope that she doesn't end up having to grovel and apologise again. (Hopefully this time she knew what she was in for, and went for it anyway?)

EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/05/2019 13:45

(Hopefully this time she knew what she was in for, and went for it anyway?)

I think she must have. I'm hoping she's done a Martina (been bullied & told to 'educate herself', gone off & done exactly that, & come back fighting for women).

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 30/05/2019 13:46

been bullied & told to 'educate herself', gone off & done exactly that, & come back fighting for women

It certainly looks that way, another tactic that's backfired, like constantly promoting this website.

Natsku · 30/05/2019 13:58

Hooray for Alf!!

Outofinspiration · 30/05/2019 14:07

Yes! Love this, and LOVE Kelly Holmes getting in there as well!

Saw this on her thread - does poor Mark really not understand the irony of 'its not something you can reasonably reject it just is'...???

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/05/2019 14:09

Says Mark - the ‘non-fit’ man.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 30/05/2019 14:12

If faux-innocence about what "cis" means was a power source, those doe-eyed little TRAs would be lighting up the country with it.

"...Wha--? But cis is so harmless, it's just an ickle-wickle wordy-birdy. Doesn't mean anyfink at all and those sillybilly ciswomen are just nasty-wasty meanie poo poo heads!..."

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 30/05/2019 14:16

Of an ikkle pickle word means nada then embrace the word Trans! Strive to claim to word Transvestite (because I'm sure as dammit that most of the transsexuals don’t bloody want to cause a stupid stink and parade around insulting women).

justju · 30/05/2019 14:32

If it didn't mean anything, they wouldn't care.

ThePurportedDoctoress · 30/05/2019 14:41

does poor Mark really not understand the irony of 'its not something you can reasonably reject it just is'...???

It's perfectly reasonable to reject a nonsense word whose use forces acceptance of a fiction as a fact. 'Woman' will do, Mark, thank you.

pejorativelyspeaking · 30/05/2019 15:53

Does poor Mark really not understand the irony of 'its not something you can reasonably reject it just is'...???

Much like the sex you are born into.

RuffleCrow · 30/05/2019 15:55

Gosh that Mark guy sounds remarkably like a man telling a woman what she can and can't do.

I've given up Twitter but I hope AM gave him a well deserved earful.

Datun · 30/05/2019 16:24

The irony of a man telling a woman she has to be defined in relation to men who say they are women.

andyoldlabour · 30/05/2019 23:58

Well done Ms Moyer, what a star.

ChristinaBB · 31/05/2019 03:19

Thank you so much!
Going to use on Twitter

SlipperyLizard · 31/05/2019 08:34

I think some TRAs are trying to re-write the definition of “cis” to mean simply “not trans” rather than “I identify with the gender assigned to me at birth”, as then it is harder to say you reject it.

I’m not on Twitter but suggest those who are point out the correct meaning of “cis” whenever “but it just means not trans!” is rolled out.

Oh, and go Alf!

KatvonHostileExtremist · 31/05/2019 08:38

Trans has nothing to do with transitioning of cause. Feelings. Feelings are all you need.

My goodness, it's so complicated. Let's just back to biological sex.

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KatvonHostileExtremist · 31/05/2019 08:39

I'm glad to see that TRA in the screenshot validating our Gender Free status though.

Bless their hearts

RoyalCorgi · 31/05/2019 08:52

These are people who get really really angry if someone writes "transwoman" rather than "trans woman". But think nobody has the right to complain about being called "cis".

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 31/05/2019 08:56

Boring old women have no rights for anything.

Funny how women have always been the whipping boy (girl?) - and this is just the new face of oppression (and even with all the plastic surgery and slap, it ain’t pretty sister)

littlbrowndog · 31/05/2019 08:57

How come these dudes who are busy telling women how to be women always have beards

Every single one

FamilyOfAliens · 31/05/2019 09:01

“Can confirm, I am a trans person with no intention of transitioning”

Just when you thought there was no more batshittery left in the woke box.

FloralBunting · 31/05/2019 09:08

Oh yes, there's a bloke on Facebook I ended up looking at the timeline of the other day, and the only mark of being trans was 'she/her' pronouns in the bio.
Big, full beard, looked like the average male and had a timeline full of complaints about feminist memes that had the word 'woman' in if they referenced female biology.
Aggressively rude and MRA talking points the whole way. Which, to be fair, along with the 'she/her' pronouns schtick, is also increasingly, a trans identifier.

FamilyOfAliens · 31/05/2019 09:23

Ok, so if trans no longer means transitioning, presumably these non-transitioning trans people aren’t protected under the EA2010 because they’re not, never have been and have no intention of undergoing a process of transitioning?

They just want access to women’s spaces because they're men and are used to getting their own way? So just male entitlement, then?

GrimDamnFanjo · 31/05/2019 09:31

I read a tweet somewhere that said rejecting cis was actually being anti trans #literalviolence