The EU want to hear from genderfree people

[GassyAss]

And any others under the trans umbrella. Here’s the link to the survey. www.lgbtisurvey.eu/lgbti/?campaign_id=154&utm_source=EPOA&utm_medium=orgs&utm_campaign=EPOA_orgs_INTL

Yes, me too. Happily Stinewall have at least 3 variations on gender free

genderless, agender, nongender somewhat confusingly followed by 3rd gender.

So I am genderless, nongender

Though again... I did qualify myself as being untrammeled by any thoughts of gender...

@somerville!!!

Alison Moyet is genderfree

I saw, and did a little happy dance!

There have been so many of these badly structued surveys it makes me wonder is it that people are not taught about bias or that the trans agenda is now so firmly embedded in the education system that supposedly profession survey writers aren't aware of what they are doing??

I tried to read this article but you have to sign up, as I wanted to know whether there is no some industry standard survey writers are following. www.research-live.com/article/features/how-do-you-identify/id/5054002

I've tried to answer this as a "sexed female, genderfree" person, but it just keeps asking about trans.

Is it really skewed or have I done it incorrectly?

I enjoyed that. I really did.

I think genderfeee does come under the trans umbrella these days. Everything else foaled doesn’t it?

The [trans] is for you to mentally insert your version.

Once I started saying Genderfree me every time it popped up it made more sense. Then you take time on your long answer at the end. Don't forget to thank Stonewall for freeing you from your sex oppressed existance

Where did the little star come from?

That was [ Trans ]

I told them to drop-kick the charlatans from under the umbrella (which is now absolutely meaningless) who are only braying for their own dodgy agenda to the detriment of everyone else, whilst pissing on everyone who just wants to get on with their life.

Ooh! MNHQ! Look at that!

Put Trans inside [] and you get a star

[trans]

I didn’t [Trans]

I feel so violated. I feel physically attacked and literally murdered. They are denying my starriness. 😭

You are a brave and stunning sister, LordProf

What a poorly constructed survey. Anyway I battled through and wrote this at the end;

My sex was correctly observed (not defined) as female at birth.

I am an adult human female and so am a woman because I am one. However I do not “identify” with the sex based stereotypes that constitute a “gender identity”. I therefore would regard myself as gender free which these days appears to be part of the trans umbrella.

In my life I have faced work discrimination, violence and harassment. But not because whether I identify with a 1950s version of feminity. But because My sex is female. And so I live in a body that means employers don’t always want to promote me because I might get pregnant or are pregnant or am on maternity leave or might want to get pregnant again. Or because my body has produced babies that I will not be serious about my career because of sex stereotypes. A body that from being a young teen men would view as public property and theirs to leer over, comment on or grab. Women face these challenges throughout their lives because of their sex not their gender identity. And by allowing people to conflate the two we allow the sexist men an out.

Say no to gender, live gender free.

It's perfectly legitimate for us Gender Free types to click the "trans" button.

Just done the survey as a gender free (trans) person. This is what I put in the comments bit at the end:

“I am an adult human female (woman) who does not believe in gender and so am gender free or agender. Apparently, this means I fall under the trans umbrella!
I do not believe in gender because it is purely a social construct comprising a collection of social stereotypes. Throughout my life I have expressed both traditionally male and female stereotypes, sometimes simultaneously - I therefore do not have a gender that matches or doesn’t match the SEX I was observed to be at birth. This also means I reject the term ‘cis’.
I have never experienced prejudice, discrimination, violence, abuse or inappropriate behaviour as a direct result of being gender free - maybe everyone should be gender free!
I have, however, experienced prejudice, discrimination, violence, abuse and inappropriate behaviour as a direct result of my biological sex being female!
I do not believe that human beings can change sex. It is essential that female only spaces are protected as per the equalities act protected characteristic of SEX.
I do support trans people having the same human rights as every other human being and wish them a life free from prejudice, discrimination, violence, abuse and inappropriate behaviour. ”

Puuuuull

Well, in the end I closed my eyes and clicked through the survey to get to the comments. I stole a lot of what PP had written and wrote:

^This survey was poorly constructed and conflated sex and gender in a confusing way throughout. Any results from it will be heavily biased and should not be taken seriously. I am disappointed and appalled that this survey has come from an official EU institution.

My sex was correctly observed (not defined) as female at birth. I do not believe in gender, which is the social construct of applying behaviours, clothing, interests, hobbies, skills and so on to a particular sex. I wish to be gender free. Apparently gender free means I can be included into this survey as this is nowadays a "trans identity".

I do not “identify” with the sex based stereotypes that constitute a “gender identity”. As an adult human female I am a woman because I am one.

I have never faced discrimination and harrassment as a gender free person. I have faced discrimination and harassment because my sex is female and I am a woman. No amount of rejecting old-fashioned norms of femininity (gender) has prevented this. I live in a body that produces ova and has periods. I have been pregnant and experienced pre-natal care, childbirth, post-natal care and breastfeeding. My body determines how I am treated. I cannot change my sex even though I might want to, considering that I'd be treated better as a man. Women are discriminated against and harassed because they are women. Women cannot identify out of this. Men can never identify into this oppression.

By conflating gender and sex you are giving sexism more space. You are undermining the rights of girls and women to have protected spaces on the basis of sex. You are making it impossible to ascertain the oppressions women face because of their sex and you are contributing to false statistical information about men and women.^

They ask if you've ever tried to change your legal gender - though there is no legal gender in the UK, only legal sex.

I mentioned something about finding the replacement of sex with gender identity in much public life as feeling quite exclusionary since I do not have a gender identity though I obviously have a sex.

Wow. What brilliant final comments banivani and FlankerMum

Mine fell well short of your standards but I did point out what an appalling survey it was among other things.

It seemed to have been put together by a ten year old.
Take this question "In the last five years how many times have you been physically or sexually attacked at home or elsewhere...for any reason"

Possible answers include "all of the time". I'm sorry, it's a serious subject of course, but this puts in mind a silly answer - I get attacked all of the time ! Is that 24/7 then?? And what about "don't know". I suppose if one had been knocked unconscious one might not know one had been attacked but otherwise....

The terrifying thing is the results of surveys like this are used to inform policy.

What aload of bollocks that was. Quite a few questo imply didn't give options which I coulld ruthfully use, and that one about housing - why did you have to live with a relative or whatever - we had o because we'd sold our flat and hadn't found a house yet. Surely that's going to be one of the most common reasons?

I said I was female sex and had no gender. Then when the survey asked more gender questions I said I was Novigender which apparently is when your gender is 'super complex and cannot be explained in a single word'