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Moby

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Caucho · 24/05/2019 20:35

Ok I wasn’t sure whether to post this in a more general section or here but has anyone else been following the Moby controversy with his initial autobiography and weird follow ups?

Most sane men seem to go to desperate lengths to deny being a pervert or their predatory past times but here is a guy who had a relatively good reputation as a lefty with no previous accusations against him who seems to be determined to tell everyone how much of a wrong un he was and is! Is the bloke going mad or just totally lacking self awareness of how bad he’s coming across. It’s like he’s determined for everyone to hate him or something

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disneyspendingmoney · 25/05/2019 16:14

If he'd gone "yep she's right, I was showing off", then we'd have more respect and it would have been forgotten about. He's now placed himself firmly in the Trump camp of mysogyny and self centered arrogance and worse denial.

One if the realisations I'm getting from Moby, is that we're (men) not taught how our creepy entitled behaviour affects people. and how not to do it in the first place. I've had to learn from my own mistakes and poor behaviour.

I say this because it is a very common complaint about male behaviour. and all he's doing is enabling the self denial of the creepy entitled bloke.

Freespeecher · 25/05/2019 18:07

Moby soon to get a 'present from Mathilda'.

Guerlainista · 25/05/2019 18:22

What I’m coming away with from this whole creepy episode (and I didn’t need creepy Moby to teach me this) is that it’s fucking creepy as hell when older guys of any ilk (but somehow especially the slightly inadequate ones that can only go off their fame or wealth) hit on girls young enough to be their daughters.

Just stop it, you creeps.

Upzadaizy · 25/05/2019 19:29

Friend of mine who knows the rock& roll scene on east coast US said to me once "He's a pig. He's slept with any woman he can get."

I like his music, but I"m not going to do the fan adulation that a lot of people - many many young men interestingly - seem to give him. His website messageboards are amazing for the total fanboying.

GraceMarks · 25/05/2019 19:48

It's funny, but he was considered extremely uncool back at the height of his fame. Loads of people owned a copy of Play but you'd be hard pushed to find anyone who would admit to liking him as a person. He was a sell-out, and there was the matter of those cringeworthy essays that were in the CD box. Everyone thought he was a bit of a twat.

Now that sort of self-consciously pretentious wokeness gets you loads of internet fanboys, it seems.

Decormad38 · 25/05/2019 20:03

Desperate unattractive guys hitting on young attractive women. It goes on day after day. Then, when rejected they turn on them. He’s doing what every dick head bloke does. Except they are usually younger. Sad

Caucho · 25/05/2019 20:47

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with ‘unattractive’ people having the audacity to even contemplate or worse still action trying it on with someone who is good looking in how we define them as a society. I find the out of your league and ‘punching’ thing a bit distasteful as if you should be grateful for someone deigning to find you attractive. That said you do need to know how life works in general and that the bookies odds suggest a 20 year old stunner is not going to be interested in bald 45 year old with a pot belly. It’s how you approach things and act which is important.

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disneyspendingmoney · 25/05/2019 22:00

Like most blokes his whole life is proped up by ensblers giving him the time and space to massage his own ego.

powershowerforanhour · 26/05/2019 05:18

Sounds like he got his head flushed down the toilet a lot in secondary school and will be trying to make up for it for the rest of his life.

beeyourself · 26/05/2019 09:41

Looks like he's issued an "apology"

disneyspendingmoney · 26/05/2019 10:15

www.instagram.com/p/Bx4zzbEhxgU/

The apology should any one want to read it.

I don't feel that this alters my feelings about the doubling down. It feels like a non-apology a PR piece to get out of a sticky situation.

I have to say that this whole business has made me introspect about my own past behaviours and I'm ashamed to say that I have behaved just like he has.

Basically a mix of self aggrandisement, self denial, purposefully misinterpreting a situation and reinforcing self delusion and lies.

Not painting a good picture of myself here.

I think this has highlighted a common behaviour in men, one I hadn't really realised that I had been doing, mixing fantasy and reality and then reinforcing it.

I still find that I want to minimise and mitigate my behaviour because it's an uncomfortable realisation, but I'll work at not doing so.

Overall, Moby has gone down massively in my estimation (much like I have about myself) and this us yet another thing to add to my list to ensure I support my dds over when It happens to them.

beeyourself · 29/05/2019 17:16

Looks like Moby is feeling the backlash - his book tour has been cancelled

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