Moby

[Caucho]

Ok I wasn’t sure whether to post this in a more general section or here but has anyone else been following the Moby controversy with his initial autobiography and weird follow ups?

Most sane men seem to go to desperate lengths to deny being a pervert or their predatory past times but here is a guy who had a relatively good reputation as a lefty with no previous accusations against him who seems to be determined to tell everyone how much of a wrong un he was and is! Is the bloke going mad or just totally lacking self awareness of how bad he’s coming across. It’s like he’s determined for everyone to hate him or something

I’m sorry one can be a ‘creep’ but that doesn’t make them on a par with child sex abusers. Why will there be ‘more serious allegations’? Maybe he’s just a twat that thinks a lot of himself and tries it on with women.

I was just going to post about Savile. Before he died I assumed there were two groups of people: those who knew nothing and those who had looked into the nature of Savile and had become instantly aware that there was something very nasty indeed. After he died I was astonished to find that there was a third group, those who seemed to know much about Savile but were apparently completely in the dark that there was anything wrong.

I'm going to an event we're he talks about his new book. Should be interesting now...

He comes across as a complete creep. Natalie Portman gave him short shrift, didnt she?

Urgh.

Wouldn't have thought he was on a Savile level, just a common or garden perv. We didn't have the gloriously dismissive language we have now, as his sort have revealed themselves over the years. Okey dokey wokey blokey. As someone pointed out, the likes of Eminem were spewing out their messed up misogyny and psychic baggage and mummy issues all over the place but at least they were honest about it. I have no idea whether this is true or not, but on a gut level, observing Eminem over the years, I got much less of a creep vibe off him than Moby.

I remember reading an interview with Moby in a mid-1990s music mag (maybe Select?) where he mentioned apropos of absolutely nothing that walnut oil, as well as being nice in salad dressing, is an excellent sexual lubricant.

My “ew, WTF” reaction has stayed with me. It wasn’t that he mentioned sex, it was more the way it was kind of gratuitously, Partridge-ishly dropped in, like “I know you wouldn’t think it to look at me, readers, but I am a Sex Person.”

He is a pathetic weasel

Sadly so many men are so entitled any women that find attractive who pays them attention they make the decision that the women is interested

I glad NP has called him out it happens so often

Guys like that really rub me the wrong way. When I was in the workforce I worked with a lot of men, and most of them were what you might call unreformed, and mostly I liked them and got along with them really well. And I dated some and they were actually quite nice to date for the most part. They never creeped me out the way the lefty vegan smooth guys do.

Yeah, Eminem had him pegged from the get-go . He's gross

Ugh. It reminds me of when I was younger, you have been on a date with someone or kissed them and they tell their mates you slept with them.

Except that he is in his fifties, he actually wrote it in a book and there was literally nothing between him and NP.

What a sad, delusional cockwomble.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caitlin-morans-celebrity-watch-when-moby-met-natalie-portman-0bjm8qkkw?shareToken=8a03e6b535e112d16c04c8d387401674

Here is a share token for the Caitlin Moran article. I hope the Times doesn't track its subscribers' use of share tokens. I might be blacklisted!

Oh you've come to my rescue. Thanks!

Apparently one of his favourite games was getting his penis out at parties and seeing how many people he could touch with it. I guess he was feeling left out of MeToo.

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That photo! That's the "I need a security team" smile of someone next to a crazed fan.

I’m shocked. I thought he was gay.

Transparency first
I'm a 52yo bald, bearded, speccy man (+ lone parent to 2 dds under 13, primary carer 100% residency). Progressive, Social justice & Vegetarian (one of the dds isn't). Yep, I rock the moby look I'm quite the fanboi. Still am, for the moment.

Moby, mate, you are so doing it wrong, I read the Guardian article. Man, you have got it so wrong. In a long rambling way let me explain.

In 2000, I was working in broadcast media in West London, actually I worked for three of the big players. We've been in the same building, I've even stopped you in the foyer to go "your music's great man - f4€king awesome", you went "yeh, Cheers thanks" in an utterly indifferent non committal way and I put my arm around your should and gave you a manly hug squeeze. You looked a bit wide eyed freaked and smiled it off. You know that moment in your life as a celebrity, when a fanboy gets too close for comfort - yeh that feeling. Hold on to that memory mate for the rest of this.

I'll freely admit, I've hit on women much younger, back when I didn't have responsibilities, There is that moment, as a man when your chatting to a 20 something and your in your 30s when you think, "Yeh I'll ask you out", but then as a self aware adult (not a celebrity) you read the change in temperature. What has gone from a pleasant conversation to an uncomfortable situation for the young woman, because I oversteped a boundary and she has to extracate herself with the minimum of bother. Believe me, Moby mate, we men are bothersome to women because they are unsure what level of manchild temper tantrum we will have.

you're having one right now, Ms. Portman is well within her rights to define the interaction as she sees fit, actually that under plays her rights. Respect how she feels about it, not how your ego wants the world to know about it.

Remember that feeling I asked you to hold on to. Now use that and mentally emitionalky switch places with Ms. Portman.

Please respect her and please introspect your role as a man in this.

Finally, on a separate note, when I was 18, I was having a moan to a nurse who was very feminist. She looked me in the eyes and said "You are a white man you have all the privelege in the world, you have nothing to worry about". Her world's have lived with me to this day. Maybe Moby consider what your privelege is doing right now and how to use it for the better.

Natalie Portman has had so much creepy, inappropriate shit to deal with from such a young age. I can remember when Leon came out, grown men were blatantly and openly lusting over her, despite her character in that film being 12 years old. I think she was a bit older in real life, maybe 14, but still underage and she was very much styled as a little girl. So the fact that she has featured as the fantasy girlfriend of this older, right-on man does make sense in a sick sort of way. Men like that were thinking of her as this precociously sexual child-woman pretty much from when she first became famous. I saw her comment elsewhere that there was an online countdown to when she became "legal" so that men could wank over her without having to think of themselves as paedophiles.

GraceMarks
God I'd forgotten about those disgusting "count downs". And what the hell is wrong with Moby, nice guy creep.

Disney you appear to have posted your letter to moby, on the Mumsnet feminist board

Ha, that's a fair comment.

I feel your username is somewhat appropriate on a thread about Moby Whatevermission.

(In case that's unclear, misread it as Whateveremission and thought "yep, that's about right".)

Whatevermission because he is not interested in the meaning of it, he's shown that by his current behaviour.

Disneyyou appear to have posted your letter to moby, on the Mumsnet feminist board

It was a good post.

I’m sure most of us on here have had this type of encounter with a man making assumptions for us and not bothering to read signals as they simply don’t feel they need to

Creepy entitled men too many of them around and too many justify their actions as the general underlying belief is men can’t really help themselves

it was kind of gratuitously, Partridge-ishly dropped in, like “I know you wouldn’t think it to look at me, readers, but I am a Sex Person.”

This made me proper lol Brilliantly put