Maternity Pay could be in trouble

[FoodologistGirl]

I've seen reports that if Nigel Farage gains power, women could lose their rights to full EU maternity pay. I've finished having children, but I'm concerned for the younger new mums.

I'm confused SMP and SMA are nothing to do with the EU. Each EU country is dif for example Poland is very good you get a year full pay I think then up to 3 years leave altogether with some pay.

That poster and many others have been put up by Led by Donkeys based on old quotes apparently.

Farage has refused to publish a manifesto for The Brexit Party so a group have done it for him.
thebrexitparty.com

All of the right wing parties are currently involved in an attack on womens rights, supported by all of the centre and all of the left wing parties.
UKIP will abolish the Equality Act, while the rest are busy ignoring it for now, they will undermine it by introducing self ID.

There's not a cats chance in hell the farage would ever 'come to power' save your fretting for stuff that might actually happen

Then it sounds like Nigel is confused too if he thinks it's the European parliament that controls our maternity pay. I'm only going on what he's said in the past. Maybe he made it up like the writing on the bus.

The EU sets minimum standards which the UK already voluntarily exceeds (our maternity leave is better than the Netherlands for eg where you only get 13 weeks, 4 of which have to be taken before the EDD).

Also Garage's party may well end up with the largest chunk of the vote in next week's Euro elections but it remains the Westminster parliament which controls our maternity provision.

Which isn't to say you shouldn't bear Garage's attitudes in mind when voting: even if you're a leave voter, I think that poster and Garage's attitudes towards women should be something you take into account.

Nor does it mean we can be complacent - we have to keep an eye on Westminster to make sure they don't back track on women's rights (if there's one lesson we should all be learning from contemporary American politics it's that legal rights are not set in stone, and their continued existence needs to be fought for).

Sodding autocorrect. No offence meant to garages the world over which are at least useful.

well said FermatsTheorem If we've learnt nothing, it's that inaction could result in the loss of the rights of our own bodies, like it looks like America is trying to do.

I know it's a big jump, but it's starting to feel like 'The handmaids tale' is a documentary

Wow, surprised those posters are allowed by the electoral commision.
They appear at first glance to have been placed by the Brexit party, but haven't at all.

Quite frankly JC is more of a threat to women’s rights (everyone’s actually). This is a bit on a non-issue. Firstly because maternity conditions are not relevant to EU politics. Secondly because maternity rights are more of an employment issue than a femenist issue (women’s rights in this area far exceed men’s). Thirdly because NF doesn’t actually care about this issue (or indeed about removing any personal rights in contrast to people like JC who want to interfere with all kinds of personal property rights, rights of self determination etc). And lastly because he’s never going to be prime minister with a majority (or even without) whereas JC stands a chance. If you are genuinely concerned about your rights it should be Jeremy Corbyn that you worry about.

Maternity rights in general are not solely an employment issue and are covered by the Equality Act.

Maternity pay is a feminist employment issue. Men cannot get pregnant so maternity rights do not apply to them.

TheInebriati

All of the right wing parties are currently involved in an attack on womens rights, supported by all of the centre and all of the left wing parties.

So true. Need a like button

BogglesGoggles Really? I would have thought he was more into everyones human rights including maternity and paternity. To be honest though it seems like none of them are young enough to have young children, so probably couldn't give a toss about new mums.

Boggles I agree the current labour, lib dems and greens are more dangerous as they don't even know what a woman is! Sad as labour used to be a party that stood up for the people including women.

Genderfreelass I don't think the others are any better, May is childless, and doesn't seem to have a maternal instinct at all (no pets either). Boris and Farage just seems to view woman as totty!

Sodding autocorrect. No offence meant to garages the world over which are at least useful.

Sorry but PMSL at your autocorrect

Politics at the moment is in freefall and imploding, and the casualties of war is always the women and children.

Long maternity pay can work against women getting a job in the first place though. I think the best sort of legislation for not getting women discriminated against is that which tries to get fathers taking as much parental leave as mothers. It would greatly reduce sex discrimination if both parents took an equal amount of time off when having a child and for child illnesses rather than it always being the woman.

SNP have 2 very vocal and amazing women standing up for women and girls.

The only MP - just 1 MP - that turned up to the amazing talk arranged by the wonderful now ex labour independent Lord Moonie, was a Conservative - David Davies.

So SNP and conservatives have small in number but very important GC voices. They also have some less vocal GC support. I think there are some Brexit Party GC candidates as well.

2rebecca But the company doesn't pay all the maternity anyway. I've never know any employer I've worked for have a problem with this. Maybe I've been lucky even the small companies valued their staff and wanted them to return.

Genderfreelass If the leader of the Brexit party, Nigel, has voiced these opinions of maternity pay, I would still worry about the other less vocal members of his party. He doesn't really come across as caring that much about women's rights.

it's starting to feel like 'The handmaids tale' is a documentary

I know what you mean. That does however require women to go along with it as opposed to getting extremely pissed off, getting very loud on the subject and taking the action necessary to change things. It's apparent that 'women's rights' were something superficial, that men saw as on loan rather than actually respecting women as equals. We currently have a vote, we have a hell of a lot of social power and buying power, women are in a very different place than they have ever been before in history. That can be changed, and hopefully this time at a much deeper and more permanent level.

To quote TIm Minchin: Just because I find myself in this story
It doesn't mean that everything is written for me
If I think the ending is fixed already
I might as well be saying
I think that it's ok
And that's not right
(And if its not right, you have to put it right.)

Hollowvictory That's what we said about Trump and look what happened, now women are losing the right to their own bodies in some states and maybe the whole of the US. Someone posted yesterday that a rapists' sperm had more rights than the woman has. Chilling!

"Farage has refused to publish a manifesto"

From the recent history of party's sticking to their manifestos I'm not sure they mean anything anyway.🤔

Brexit Party and ukip hate Women's Rights.

Most of their membership and supporters are old men.