Maternity Pay could be in trouble

[FoodologistGirl]

I've seen reports that if Nigel Farage gains power, women could lose their rights to full EU maternity pay. I've finished having children, but I'm concerned for the younger new mums.

Every time they say they will slash red tape and regulations, they mean things like maternity pay and working time directives. They don't care about women and you should be very worried about the end results of Brexit if you are one, know one or have daughters. Foolish to believe anything will be better for women after Brexit. It's all about middle aged (white) men clawing back power so they can exploit for their own gain. And yet, people still vote for them.

Genderfreelass I don't think the others are any better, May is childless, and doesn't seem to have a maternal instinct at all (no pets either)

Can I just point out that not having kids or pets doesn't make you evil.

If someone is a cunt then they have chosen to be one.

Having pets or kids doesn't make a woman into a fucking saint.

It's comments like that that from other women that make me thing 'why the fuck do I bother?'

Food are you suggesting that women who don't have children are in some way inferior to those who have children and have no idea how important maternity rights are? Most people who meet me think I don't have children through choice as I'm damn well not going to give them the ins and outs of our infertility struggles - you have no idea whether May's childlessness is through choice or not. And yes, sometimes I do feel as though I'm treated as inferior by other women because I don't have kids.

Oh, I have a cat though - does that make me acceptable to society?

Sakrifice yy to why do I bother after posts like that.

Oh, I have a cat though - does that make me acceptable to society?

I have a wormery so technically millions of 'pets' that I keep fed and watered.

brexit certainly decimates Women's Rights; all Women whether they choose or choose not to have kids.

May is not childless by choice.
A few years ago there were various articles about it.

Yy Sackrifice

Whether a woman us childless by choice or not it has no bearing on whether they are a nice person. There are plenty of evil people who have children and then abuse them!

Yes, just like to underline that Farage is an unpleasant caricature nightmare of a politician but that his views are no more problematic to women than the more subtle but no less insidious shit in the mainstream parties.

And can we please banish with all haste the extremely anti-woman idea that your personal situation wrt children is indicative of your worth or significance as a woman. What an offensive idea.

I find it amazing that women ever got maternity pay tbh.

If we look at what where women's rights are, and are going, now, we're a million miles away from ever making any sort of achievement for women like that. I was reading the comments from men in the Nike maternity pay reports, and they really don't think we should be paid anything while pregnant or on mat leave.

And I think if any Party in power here decided to unilaterally pull maternity pay and rights, it would work, because in reality there just aren't enough people who really care about women (beyond their usefulness to men).

Feeling a bit glum

TM, like many of us, is not childless by choice. My lack of children makes me no less of a feminist and no less able to fight for women's rights. Someone doesn't become a good human being simply by virtue of having a child in the same way that those of us without children aren't automatically evil.

May is childless, and doesn't seem to have a maternal instinct at all (no pets either)

That’s completely unfair. I think May is fucking useless, but I always got the impression she genuinely cared about children’s rights and was serious about pursuing historic child abuse cases.

And if you’re going to judge Women because they are childless, and only exonerate them if it isn’t by choice, you have no business posting on a feminist board.

Brexit is not going to be the end of civilisation as we know it. I can't remember who said it on here but it is Corbyn who is dangerous, not Farage.

Maternity leave and maternity pay, if I'm being honest , is a pain to deal with as an employer, but it has to be dealt with and it is dealt with and women take it and come back to work. The alternative would be in my profession of discounting around 55% of available candidates. And that doesn't happen. My firm has recently upped our maternity package as we were told it was less attractive than our competitors. That has damn all to do with the EU as we and they were offering far more than we were obliged to.

Plus any business looking to tender for public sector work has to show they are committed to stuff like Investors in People.

Always interesting when women who have benefited from rights won for them by other women, and in this instance, the EU, are quite sanguine about removing those rights for other women by supporting brexit.

Always interesting when women who have benefited from rights won for them by other women, and in this instance, the EU, are quite sanguine about removing those rights for other women by supporting
brexit

If you are replying to me (a) I am not supporting Brexit. I voted Remain. I don't however think Brexit is the end of civilisation as we know it (b) I think there is a lot of scaremongering going on in this thread and (c) I didn't actually benefit from any maternity pay or maternity leave beyond my employer kept my job open for 3 months as I wasn't entitled to anything.

LassOfFyvie
How will brexit benefit women?

woman19
LassOfFyvie
How will brexit benefit women?

I didn't say it will benefit women. I said there is a lot of scaremongering that leaving the EU will result in a return to the middle ages. My personal view is it will make little difference.

My personal view is it will make little difference

Ms Dick told the human rights committee that the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox in 2016 had contributed to an “extraordinary set of circumstances” with a level of harassment and abuse not seen before

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-abuse-mps-cressida-dick-parliament-protest-harriet-harman-a8905281.html

I didn't say it will benefit women
What's the point of it then?

Brexit could very well be the end of civilisation as we know it, if we No Deal, actually.

Brexit could very well be the end of civilisation as we know it, if we spend decades caught up in petty internal wrangling and trade deals, whilst ignoring the climate disaster.

Brexit is enabling the far right to rise again. Yes, end of civilisation as we know it.

But yes. I'm scaremongering even though all the warning signs are right in front of our faces.

Women will take the brunt of any of those things.

I didn't say it will benefit women
What's the point of it then?

I didn't say it had a point- you seem to be confusing me with someone who is a Brexiteer.

However "will it benefit women" isn't a criterion I would apply anyway. I voted no to Scottish independence and remain ; whether that benefited women had no bearing on my decision.

Brexit could very well be the end of civilisation as we know it, if we spend decades caught up in petty internal wrangling and trade deals, whilst ignoring the climate disaster

The UK is way up the league table of countries using renewable energy, ahead of any other EU country.

On the issue of abortion, the UK has longer time limits than most, if not all EU countries. Go and do some reading about Poland and the German and Spanish attitudes to rape and prostitution.