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Republican politician on rape

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Nikhedonia · 16/05/2019 22:55

This has possibly been done before, but I am shocked.

This is utterly depressing. No wonder the laws in the US are so despicable towards women. It's scary.

Snopes has verified the quotes:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/personal-foul/

Republican politician on rape
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Nikhedonia · 16/05/2019 22:56

Title should be *politicians

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birdsdestiny · 16/05/2019 22:57

Fucking hell. What else is there to say.

TooStressyTooMessy · 16/05/2019 23:00

This is terrifying. I’ve never felt I belonged in this section of MN before for various reasons but I am now so, so appalled by what is happening to women and how fragile our rights are.

Nikhedonia · 16/05/2019 23:02

It's horrendous and really quite scary.

I can't quite believe what I've just read.

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Lumene · 16/05/2019 23:52
Shock
Nikhedonia · 16/05/2019 23:57

Big shock that they are all republicans Hmm

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Orchidoptic · 17/05/2019 00:23

I bet there are some Democrats who are equally as likeable.

DinkyTie · 17/05/2019 00:32

Wow. Actually speechless.

pallisers · 17/05/2019 00:47

I bet there are some Democrats who are equally as likeable.

really? produce some similar quotes then.

InionEile · 17/05/2019 05:36

Those self-same people will rant and rave about extremist 'Ay-rabs' and 'Mooslims' who are destroying the country with their un-American ideas and sharia law. Yet the way these people think isn't that far from the Taliban mindset.

MrsTerryPratchett · 17/05/2019 05:41

really? produce some similar quotes then.

I think on the Feminist board we can say out loud that there are likely to be Democrat rapists and apologists as well. They might be hiding it better. And not using it as policy. Small mercies.

I think trading women's lives and autonomy for power is a special kind of dreadful though.

Bumpitybumper · 17/05/2019 05:42

Disgusting!

ScrumpyBetty · 17/05/2019 05:47

Wow. Utterly speechless and appalled. Let's hope none of them have a daughter who is ever raped (I really would not wish that horror on anyone).

TheCrowFromBelow · 17/05/2019 05:57

That last quote Shock

I mean all of them are shit but that last one. And the first. Oh all of them.

They really don’t see rape as problem, do they?

zen1 · 17/05/2019 06:02

FFS. Imagine having one of those areseholes as your representative.

zen1 · 17/05/2019 06:03

*arseholes!

Nikhedonia · 17/05/2019 08:03

Those self-same people will rant and rave about extremist 'Ay-rabs' and 'Mooslims' who are destroying the country with their un-American ideas and sharia law. Yet the way these people think isn't that far from the Taliban mindset.

That's a really good point @InionEile. I doubt they see that at all though

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Persifleur · 17/05/2019 08:25

I reckon some men (NAMALT, obvs) have an empathy problem with understanding rape because they see it as just an unwanted quickie, no big deal. Especially the sort of rape that's wrongly called 'non-violent'. It's over so quickly for them, no aftermath. And then of course there are the outright misogynists.

Janie143 · 17/05/2019 10:02

One of those quotes is by a woman !

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 17/05/2019 10:16
Sad

those people are just fucking bonkers. why are we in a world where such abhorrent opinions are taken seriously?

andyoldlabour · 17/05/2019 10:41

"I reckon some men (NAMALT, obvs) have an empathy problem with understanding rape"

Not just rape, but violence, killing and wanton destruction.
I was in the US about 12 years ago, in a hotel lobby and there was a Republican politician (high profile) who was holding court, openly talking about "nuking ragheads" and "killing off the anklebiters first".
The same instantly recogniseable politician is now part of the Trump administration, and I have absolutely no doubt that he holds the same views about women as those other politicians featured in the OP.

andyoldlabour · 17/05/2019 10:44

"One of those quotes is by a woman !"

Her Wiki bio makes interesting reading.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Anne_Laubenberg

Nikhedonia · 17/05/2019 11:05

It doesn't surprise me that one of the quotes is a woman, sadly.

Some women have very similar views about rape. I wonder if it comes from a very 'protected' world view. They have been fortunate enough to not have been raped, but someone believe this is because they have 'carried themselves in the right way' or 'avoided wearing inappropriate clothes' or any other bullshit pushed by society about why men rape women.

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Michelleoftheresistance · 17/05/2019 11:48

The modern view of women in the leading political classes is that they are a) less human than men and b) less entitled to civil and human rights and c) exist for the purposes of men anyway particularly in terms of providing sexual and other services, including baby making.

Suffrage: The Return. (And This Time She Means It.)

It takes this kind of provocation for average women to get angry enough to see it and join action against it. So bring on the next sexual revolution in which half the population of the planet, get up, look the other square in the eye and say ok, this bullshit amongst humans is over. Permanently.

Michelleoftheresistance · 17/05/2019 11:54

Some women have very similar views about rape

Some women have what seems to be a powerful version of Stockholm syndrome, where they hold the views that keeps them patted on the head by men. Take a look at any MiL thread and you'll see a few women turn up to scold other women for not being doormats and prioritising the men/mother of the man as a properly downtrodden woman should. The dynamic of a woman having grabbed what power and control she can as mother of a male is also writ large. The same with domestic abuse threads, some woman will arrive to scold that she somehow deserved it by failing to placate/manage the man properly and needs to accommodate him and his violence.

Here on the FWR we frequently have women arrive to tell us that women should put aside our feelings and needs and human and civil rights and access to law and safeguarding for children in order to indulge men who find any boundaries to their wishes/sexual desires inconvenient, regardless of the harm done to others. How messed up do you have to be to believe, truly, you are less entitled to anything in life than someone with a penis, and your only validation will come from proving how good a girl you're being by being an 'ally' and the 'right kind of woman'?

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