Rape Crisis Centre 'likes' tweet calling women hateful bigots

[ScottishWomen]

A Rape Crisis Centre has 'liked' a tweet calling a panel of professional & academic women, including Julie Bindel and Rosa Freedman, 'misogynistic transphobes' 'hateful' & 'bigots'.

They are part of a panel discussing Women's Sex-Based Rights, UN CEDAW and how to protect them, at an event in Edinburgh University next month.

This comes after senior politicians have stated that women should be able to meet and discuss topics without being abused.

twitter.com/scottish_women/status/1125820494480064513?s=21

Caitlin Logan's tweet thread there states:

"Legally, employers can’t ask people if they’re trans and if they know, they can’t disclose it to anyone. "

Yes employers can ask, specifically where a Genuine Occupational Requirement exists.

Caitlin Logan isn't particularly well informed. Just woke.

Also the idea that most MTF trans people are in any danger of their cover being blown is... well.

www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/news/blog/standing-up-for---and-standing-with---services-scotland-can-be-proud-of/

Is it just me or does this suggest that if you criticise the trans inclusion statement you don't care about victims?
Because surely a great proportion of us who are criticising it are rape victims ourselves.

They seem to also be using the 'if you don't agree, there will be suicides' threat. I've heard that one before.

No, it isn't just you. What a manipulative statement.

Bear in mind that in Scotland all women's orgs have had to sign up to trans access/the kool aid for their services to protect their govt funding. No trans, no cash. I'm not sure how things are working in practice/private, but in public we're all woke...

I navigate the same funding difficulties as the rest of us in the sector. I think there's scope for a trans inclusion policy to say, for example, 'we are inclusive to all female people with experience of a girlhood, no matter their gender identity or lack thereof' or similar.
You just have to have a policy. It doesn't have to be both sexes.
You could fit ours on the back of an envelope tbh and we refer to whatever it was in all our bids dated after we wrote it.
You could fund a service without equalities funding though. Maybe not a rasac/rape crisis but... possibly. Big lottery, robertson trust etc.

Someone doing it under duress wouldn't have worded that statement in such a horrible manipulative way, demonising women who care about women's rights. This is TRA propaganda. I suspect, like Wadhwa there are other TRAs who've inserted themselves into these services.

You could fund a service without equalities funding though. Maybe not a rasac/rape crisis but... possibly. Big lottery, robertson trust etc.

I'm not sure you'd get lottery money without "inclusion" would you?

Sorry Charlie, I don't know how I missed that - I think the red mist descended before I got all the way through to the end of your comment!

Men's sheds get plenty of funding

Yes but they're not a target for transactivists.

Honestly this has been going on since 2005 for me and more and more makes me think we need to get back to different, more sustainable structures for charities and social entreprises and more generous attitudes from people who think they should exist.
If somebody can raise 60k in a couple of days for a worthy cause from GC people, why not 400k a year or thereabouts to run a service that has integrity and works to heal survivors.
VRR do a lot of can-rattling and that's fantastic outreach as well as fundraising.

I think we have to be really careful about demonising services where it's clear most/all staff are trying their best.
But I don't think anyone should be strategising around how to avoid being targetted by transactivists. They're weirdos on the internet mobilised by a few very clever people, but they don't have to be given all the power in this situation.

Forth Valley Rape Crisis will ensure that the needs of all trans* people are respected and fully integrated into service delivery and that we can support potential/appointed trans women who volunteer and are employed to fully participate in the feminist movement.

So, they let men work there. With rape victims. Hmm.

As validation. No different to what VRR fought so long and hard against. There is no reason for MTF trans people to force their presence on already traumatised women who may be distressed by it. Not if they see women as anything more than props, and have a scintilla of human decency and respect for women, anyway.

As a rape survivor I am absolutely questioning the motivation of any male person who does that. It's appalling that it is considered "inclusive".