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Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling

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LesbianMeansSomething · 05/05/2019 21:26

I won't hold my breath for Twitter to take any action as there are far too many women to ban for stating biological facts but thank-you to Sharron (and Kelly Holmes and Lord Moonie) for standing up for lesbians:

twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1124999664820994048

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Datun · 06/05/2019 00:26

I'm baffled at the denial too. They have to say lesbianism is transphobic - otherwise TWAW doesn't make sense.

So what are they playing at?

2BthatUnnoticed · 06/05/2019 00:34

More contact details for anyone who would like to support Kelly. It’s so hard to speak up for women, especially lesbians, in the current climate. Thank you Kelly for doing this.

Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling
barelove · 06/05/2019 00:36

I want to get 'My preference is not prejudice' on a t-shirt.

DpWm · 06/05/2019 08:11

So transexuals are gay. I thought they were heterosexual but in the wrong skin. Thank you for the info.
Not quite.
Transsexuals are people. Some are homosexual some are heterosexual like all people.

A male-to-female transexual who is attracted to women will usually refer to themselves as "a lesbian".
A m-t-f attracted to males will often consider themselves straight.

GC feminists disagree with this because they recognise that
Homosexual=same sex attracted. Heterosexual=opposite sex attracted.

It's very very common for males who identify as women (and make no attempt to change anything about their body) to be heterosexual but "identify as a lesbian" (it's some sort of ultimate male sex fantasy to be a lesbian thank you porn culture).
These are the people who invented the rapey term "cotton ceiling" and see female lesbians and as ppl who need to get over it and take dick.

Thank you Sharron for standing up for AHF lesbians.

SarahTancredi · 06/05/2019 08:14

Even stonewall is homophobic now.

Same sex attraction is transphobic Hmm

My heart breaks for all the young lesbians having to deal with this shit. Men forcing them to do dick. Rape culture!

Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling
InTheHeatofLisbon · 06/05/2019 08:21

The general argument seems to be if you're not trans or gay you have no say.

Fair enough.

Fuck off with telling women what we can and can't call ourselves then!

Oh and campaign for your own spaces to fit your extremely narrow group.

Because I am sick fucking fed up of being told I can't state biological fact, that I have to allow rape threats and aggression from activists and that I can't state that a woman is an adult human female.

Fuck off with cis too, woman is just fine.

Add whatever specific prefixes you like to your own definition, just keep that ludicrous bullshit well away from me.

YouJustDoYou · 06/05/2019 08:26

The comments vilifying Sharon are just scary.

YouJustDoYou · 06/05/2019 08:28

Everyone must love dick. If you don't love and take dick, = transphobic bigoted terf.

Datun · 06/05/2019 08:37

The comments vilifying Sharon are just scary.

They really are. Any normal person would be horrified. The fact they egg each other on and twitter does nothing is a terrifying revelation.

Anlaf · 06/05/2019 08:42

In terms of evidence of lesbians shamed for not accepting penis, this google drive folder has many many examples

(Note this is not mine - you should be able to access it anonymously e.g. in incognito browser mode)

drive.google.com/folderview?id=13vfYxPdJ-HeeLfk_EDg9fR9lUx2NFWpd

JessicaWakefieldSV · 06/05/2019 08:43

The fact they egg each other on and twitter does nothing is a terrifying revelation.

Twitter is the worst of all platforms and none of them are particularly fair to women- including this one.

FannyCann · 06/05/2019 08:49

Oh. And they're going after Sharon's job too.

Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling
Datun · 06/05/2019 08:54

So she should ask those deniers outright if excluding transwomen from your lesbian dating pool is fine then.

If they're terrified of this getting to the public, they can go on record saying the opposite.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/05/2019 08:56

So many on there still claiming it never happens..wy do they still try that tack? Makes no sense, when there is endless proof of it happening, and quie often too...

InTheHeatofLisbon · 06/05/2019 09:01

Because unambiguous proof and truth is denied as fake news or the definitions of words are changed to suit the new agenda.

It's their sole purpose. To oppress, deny and silence. Women. Just women, nobody else and they've got carte blanche to do it.

Needmoresleep · 06/05/2019 09:06

Though sadly the behaviour of a few seems to hide the genuine problem of some with gender dysphoria, who see themselves as women and who want to date straight men. The dating pool is severely restricted. Leanne Mills wrote about this eloquently

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6493959/Transsexual-warn-reality-transexual.html

RoseofDawn covers the issue a recent interview, i think with "Lord Scrump". Interestingly she is open about being trans, and discovers many men would be more interested if she had a penis.

Whilst Talisa Garcia www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6716569/BBC-transgender-Chilean-born-actress-45-reveals-got-role-Baptiste.html suggests that dating straight men is not straightforward.

I assume it is a genuine problem. Indeed I wonder if it is one that Susie greens daughter has come across? There are not just long term medical issues to be considered around tran-ing, but social ones as well.

A question. Why are transpeople, who identify as women, who effectively pass as women, and who want to date men, relatively silent. No loud demands that that men should accept them. Yet transpeople, who identify as women but who want to date women (lesbians, as straight women would simply confirm their masculinity) are making a song and dance.

My answer would be that there are different types of dysphoria. One perhaps a form of mental illness. Real wrong body stuff. Whilst another might be considered AGP with a kink element to it. And that the first, the 5,000 people who were considered when the first GRA was drawn up are effectively being forgotten, along with transmen, in the current Trans campaign.

Sharron is cool. Go Kelly go. Both know a lot about sport. Both will have had plenty of lesbian teams mates. But apart from that are ordinary women leading ordinary lives. Fantastic spokeswomen for common sense.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 06/05/2019 09:06

They say its all bots and 'transphobic people pretending to be trans'..however, this very very often comes from TRAs themselves? Unless they claim being hacked, but then in that case, surely they would delete the messages the nasty people put up?!

Genderfreelass · 06/05/2019 09:39

Have emailed specialized to tell them what a great role model Dame Kelly is. I explained that as they should know from designing bikes for both men and women there are physical differences and that it is not hateful to say that.

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TheBullshitGoesOn · 06/05/2019 09:47

Have those more tech-savvy archived key evidence such as rapey Reilly's video and RMcK's tweets? Because maybe at some point the TRA lobby will realise that harassing lesbians isn't a good look and will look to delete the evidence and change history.

katiegoestoaldi · 06/05/2019 10:08

*The general argument seems to be if you're not trans or gay you have no say.

Fair enough.

Fuck off with telling women what we can and can't call ourselves then!

Oh and campaign for your own spaces to fit your extremely narrow group.

Because I am sick fucking fed up of being told I can't state biological fact, that I have to allow rape threats and aggression from activists and that I can't state that a woman is an adult human female.

Fuck off with cis too, woman is just fine.

Add whatever specific prefixes you like to your own definition, just keep that ludicrous bullshit well away from me.*

This

Michelleoftheresistance · 06/05/2019 10:35

I'll 'get over' my homosexuality when the TRA movement 'get over' and accept their birth sex. Either the same standards apply to everyone - and don't privilege trans people while jumping up and down on the humanity and rights of everyone else on the planet - or they're abhorrent standards that shouldn't be applied to anyone.

Can't have it both ways.

As to the 'it's a lie and it never happens (despite all the evidence)' I'll just leave the narcissist's prayer here.

Transactivists tweeting violent threats to Sharron Davies for opposing the cotton ceiling
RussellSprout · 06/05/2019 11:04

Would Harrop shag a trans man, a cunty one, is the real question?

littlbrowndog · 06/05/2019 11:14

Jess Phillips was told on twitter that she needed a good fucking to sort her teeth out

Twitter said not hate speech

You can say what you want to women on twitter.

Twitter hates women

JessicaWakefieldSV · 06/05/2019 11:22

Jess Phillips was told on twitter that she needed a good fucking to sort her teeth out

Jesus. I didn’t know that. Twitter is really the worst.

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