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AIBU: The Green Party

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LegoToast · 01/05/2019 19:15

So, tomorrow is the local elections. There are five candidates in my ward: Labour, Conservatives, an independent, UKIP, and the Greens.

I will be spoiling my ballot.

Ten years ago, I would have voted for the Greens. Their views were the closest to my own. But now, I’d rather vote UKIP as a protest vote than give the Greens anything at all.

Out of all the parties, I feel that they have been hit the hardest by the Kool Aid. A tiny party that was unknowingly dominated with a challenging ideology. They didn’t stop and think. They saw new people with new ideas and accepted them gladly. The lost good genuine people over this issue as well as tons of voters.

The Greens were the party of science and logic. But now they’re nothing more than meaningless “woke” statements hidden behind a veneer of environmental activism.

I couldn’t join even if I wanted to. I’d only be expelled for having the wrong facts.

Yes, other parties rushed into the woke cookies too, but they’re slowly edging backwards. The Greens can’t come back from this. It will haunt them. Sad

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deydododatdodontdeydo · 03/05/2019 11:25

At local level, if you are unhappy about your choices, STAND YOURSELF!

Even if you only get 10 votes, and one of them is your own, it's far better than not voting at all or spoiling your ballot. You, for example, could get the 10 votes a sitting councillor needs to return. And you may do better than you suspect.

Not being funny, but what is the point in that?
Sounds like a lot of effort to go to for 10 votes which will change nothing and achieve nothing.

RuffleCrow · 03/05/2019 13:39

Unless you actually want to be a councillor, please don't stand as one. I've seen 'paper' candidates elected due to poor turnout/ protest votes. If there had been an independent candidate of any description on my ballot paper they would have got my 'none of the above' vote. Suspect many would have done the same.

BettyDuMonde · 03/05/2019 13:47

Yeah, being a half way decent councillor is an extraordinary amount of work for a not-very-big allowance.

Council meetings, various committee meetings, local surgeries, casework, fact-finding visits etc.
You have to want to do it, especially if you have no one to cover your duties, which is likely if you are an independent.

Motheroffeminists · 03/05/2019 18:04

I'm guessing not many people know their history or the Green votes are partially a protest vote as they've done very well in the local elections.

IrenetheQuaint · 03/05/2019 18:17

I may vote Green in the EU elections as I think it's really important to have a strong Green block in the EU Parliament to fight for environmental protections and against pollution/big business. I'd find it hard to vote for them domestically, though, for all the reasons listed here.

LegoToast · 03/05/2019 19:02

Who got more votes? UKIP or the Greens?

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Ereshkigal · 03/05/2019 19:05

Sian Berry, the Party leader, wanted the women removed forcibly

On what grounds? I'm sure if it had been an environmental protest or something they align with they would be shouting about civil liberties.

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