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Trans Train

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BessyK · 27/04/2019 15:48

As the mother of a ROGD teen i'd like to share this documentary from Sweden (translated into English).
The Trans Train www.svtplay.se/video/22035454/uppdrag-granskning/uppdrag-granskning-sasong-20-the-trans-train?start=auto&tab=2019

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sarahwhitting · 17/05/2019 22:15

Goosefoot,

I think your key word for me is "deal with". "Dealing with" is a part of teenager growing up, and nothing new under the sun. Let me put my foot forward with the following statement....

The mass sterilisation of teenage, non-conforming women is a crime against humanity.

Whose agenda are we accomplishing here? I mean really, you can't get a tatoo, but you can volunteer for eliminating your own gene pool? WTF?

ThePurportedDoctoress · 18/05/2019 10:01

Bump. Thanks for posting this. This documentary needs to be shown on tv in the UK.

Outanabout · 18/05/2019 11:14

Did anyone else get chills at Olle Soder? 😣 there was something weirdly zombie like about him. I've seen more empathy in the eyes of a cat. He's at 31 minutes in or so. shudder

ArabellaDoreenFig · 18/05/2019 11:30

What frightens me is the absurd ease with which these poor children (and they are children) are being permanently sterilised.

When is was a young women I was whole heartedly convinced I never ever wanted children - and genuinely would have opted to get sterilised if I could have done. In my late twenties I met my DH and accidentally fell pregnant- and (cliche alert) being a mum is the best thing I have ever done, and it makes me feel a sense of desperation that we are taking the choice of motherhood away from these girls before they have any idea of what it really means.

nauticant · 18/05/2019 11:53

I swing between wondering whether gender non-confirming people are perceived as a threat that needs to be neutralised or if they're an opportunity to be instrumentalised to push particular agendas. It's probably a bit of both.

FannyCann · 18/05/2019 12:08

Outanabout those Drs all give me the creeps. Reminiscent of the "guardian" in Girl with a Dragon Tattoo. A system which has been shown to be open to abuse.

sarahwhitting · 21/05/2019 06:57

Nauticant, I so agree with you. Non-conforming youngsters are a threat, and they are being conveniently neutralised and instrumentalised.

Now how can we as mothers tell our ostracised children that it is perfectly fine to be who they are? Because children who are different.... who are on the spectrum, who look different, who have hi IQs, an artistic sensitivity, who suffer from depression, who have rare interests/talents or any number of things..... children who are different are ostracised by most other children.

There is definitely a feeling of not wanting to be "who I am" in these kids because of the hurt they feel, which reaches heart breaking intensities during the teenage years when belonging to a group is so important.

Past generations just "stuck it out" until adulthood (physical and mental) set in and "being ostracised, weird or non-normal" became "being exceptional". What did teachers/parents do or not do back then that isn't happening now?

Please, please, please world, stop sterilising our children during the painful teenage years, even if they think they want it. There is a reason we do not let them vote or get tatoos or breast enhancement, nose jobs, etc. It doesn't mean we don't love them or have no regard for what they are going through. Its because we think they need to wait until the hurt calms down and they have the experience and knowledge to make good decisions for themselves. The vast majority of time, the hurt calms down with simple time.

OldCrone · 21/05/2019 07:41

There is definitely a feeling of not wanting to be "who I am" in these kids because of the hurt they feel, which reaches heart breaking intensities during the teenage years when belonging to a group is so important.

And it's bizarre how people who say to these kids that they're fine just as they are, are accused of advocating conversion therapy, while those who encourage them to have all sorts of irreversible treatment to change who they are, are supposedly the good guys who are helping them to be their true selves. It's insane.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 21/05/2019 08:05

sarahwhitting
It breaks my heart that this government is allowing children like this to be targeted and lied to by trans lobby groups - especially in schools. Suspending safeguarding tor 'gender non conforming' children and pretending that they are able to consent when we know that they can't possibly understand the long term implications of the drugs, the breast binding etc. Sad

InsulatedCup · 22/05/2019 07:56

I'm a mother of a 21 year old ASD DD who is trans, currently on the waiting list for the gender clinic. And that documentary articulates everything that keeps me awake at night.

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