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LGBT lessons for primary school - what next Kink?

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Toomuchsoul · 26/04/2019 16:07

Long time lurker but with that recent mumsnet case I've decided to create a new login and post.

Saw this on today's guardian www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/apr/26/my-life-in-sex-the-man-who-left-his-wife-for-his-dominatrix which made me think what if BDSM was incorporated in LGBTQ and learnt that it is; it is K for Kink http://www.mtv.co.uk/pride/news/lgbtq-acronym-guide . Will our kids be taught about BDSM soon?! A few years ago I would have laughed at the notion but the way things are going I'm not sure it's something to joke about and it is highly likely it will be part of the syllabus soon. It's a scary dystopian world we are living in where kids can no longer be kids - we are told to shield kids from the internet, to etc but the real threat to kids innocent is schools and the government.
Ps - I fully support teaching primary school kids about accepting LG but the rest of the alphabet soup is confusing for even me, an intelligent ?individual. It is even confusing to those in the LGBT+ community so why is it acceptable to teach 4 year olds. This a really good article from transgender trends re teaching LGBT+ https://www.transgendertrend.com/no-outsiders-queering-primary-classroom/

Hope the links work.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 26/04/2019 16:16

Welcome!

There's a thread here:

I thought I couldn't be shocked anymore (No Outsiders programme) www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3567446-I-thought-I-couldnt-be-shocked-anymore-No-Outsiders-programme

NeurotrashWarrior · 26/04/2019 16:16

Pretty much says what you're saying!

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Toomuchsoul · 26/04/2019 16:21

Thanks! I actually think I'm scared.
At a friend's school, the children were told to dress in rainbow colours. She didn't think anything of it until she arrived at the school and she suddenly thought is this about LGBT and she asked the teacher and they said no. Her daughter came home and told her that they learnt about LGBT and acceptance that day. The school basically lied to her and when she bought it up to the headteacher they gave her a website and looked down at her like she was a trouble maker.

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goodwinter · 26/04/2019 16:26

Not sure if you just made a typo, but is there something about bisexuality that you don't agree with or think should be kept away from children?

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Toomuchsoul · 26/04/2019 16:31

I have no problem with bisexual but I don't think I necessarily understand your post. If I did and I choose to exclude it then...

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NeurotrashWarrior · 26/04/2019 16:31

It's extremely difficult isn't it.

LGB is about accepting you as you are and others accepting you as you are.

The T is about potentially irreversibly changing what you are rather than just accepting you may be a boy who likes stereotypically girl things and vice versa. It's so sexist. And homophobic.

And the last thing children need is to be stifled by sexism and homophobia.

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Toomuchsoul · 26/04/2019 16:33

Goodwinter this sort of questioning is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. I forgot B but kids at primary school are meant to remember this when I can't remember every single alphabet. How will B be taught to primary school kids for eg?

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goodwinter · 26/04/2019 16:52

Sorry OP I don't mean to nitpick, but I'm bi myself and there's lots of erasure about. I'm referring to this part of your post:

I fully support teaching primary school kids about accepting LG but the rest of the alphabet soup is confusing for even me, an intelligent ?individual.

As for how it will be taught to primary school kids, I imagine much the same way as the L and G! "Some people are attracted to men and women" or something like that?

goodwinter · 26/04/2019 16:53

To expand (sorry!) I think I take issue with the implication that gay and lesbian are "standard" sexualities, if you will, whereas bisexuality is part of an "alphabet soup".

R0wantrees · 26/04/2019 17:56

Will our kids be taught about BDSM soon?! A few years ago I would have laughed at the notion but the way things are going I'm not sure it's something to joke about and it is highly likely it will be part of the syllabus soon

Worth being aware of BISH which provides resources for teenagers & training for secondary schools.
Justin Hancock (BISH founder) also works in partnership with Dr Meg John Barker.
Theres a great deal of pro kink/BDSM etc focus.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3357713-BISH-proudly-supported-by

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3339137-BACP-Gender-Sexual-and-Relationship-Diversity-by-Dr-Meg-John-Barker

Imnobody4 · 26/04/2019 19:53

Same here OP. A few years ago I was telling everyone else to chill. There seems to be a solid group of academics pushing a 'liberal/ libertarian' approach under the banner of child led sex education. This author is a speaker at an Autism conference. This is a book she's written
Childhood and Sexuality - Contemporary Issues and Debates | Allison Moore | Palgrave Macmillan
www.palgrave.com/gp/book/9781137524959
Concerns sexuality studies and the new sociology of childhood. If I thought it was about girls being given the right to demand pleasure and say no I'd feel a it happier.

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