Glitter holes, and children's library sessions

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So while I was out and about watching TRAs destroy John Boyne, I came across this story.

www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/drag-story-time-event-for-children-cancelled-at-dublin-library-after-backlash-38015705.html

I know we've debated if these events are appropriate before, but this one really struck me. The name of the drag collective is Glitter Hole, and their profile pic is a pink bum.

They is, of cause, much wailing and fainting over the horror they might not be age appropriate for 3-7 year olds. But I'm thinking their name probably isn't? For sure!

Mummy, mummy, what's a glitter hole? Can I make one?

Erm....

You want to present to children? Get a non sexual name

Jesus, it shouldn’t be complicated to work that out

So it's a shitter-hole with added sparkle?

Marian Keyes and the Irish luvvies on Twitter are mourning this act of terrible bigotry, as though it were the modern day equivalent of O'Casey's Plough and the Stars being rioted off the stage in 1926. What a terrible loss to Dun Laoghaire Library is Glitter Hole; our grandchildren will surely read about this in their history books. Nothing says "kid friendly" like the folks who hand out free butt plugs at their live shows, organise "Fianna Fellatio" club nights and are named after an anus.

In case anyone wants a definition of glitter hole, here it is.

The world has gone mad. People are so desperate to be liberal and woke that all sense has left them. How anyone can read the definition of Glitter Hole then go on and defend their suitability to deliver a children’s event is beyond me.

It has been discussed on this thread:
Transgender rights in Ireland -- what's going on? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3559126-Transgender-rights-in-Ireland-whats-going-on

Thanks for that link MarDhea
I should have known some eagle eyed mumsnetter would have spotted this and already posted! Such a bizarre story.

I love Marian Keyes, and can only assume that she doesn't know what a 'Glitter Hole' is...

Nothing says "kid friendly" like the folks who hand out free butt plugs at their live shows, organise "Fianna Fellatio" club nights and are named after an anus.

Brief for a new cbeebies show?

See its funny. Nearly all of the talk around the objections to the stuff about 'teaching' homosexuality in schools centres around the fact that it really is no more than teaching kids that men can marry men, some people have 2 mums instead of a mum and dad etc, so what's the problem? Which I totally agree with and is fine. Because that is totally age appropriate for 3-7 year olds.

But then almost directly alongside that comes stuff like this, which is blatantly not age appropriate (Mummy, what's a 'Glitter hole'?) and yet people seem to lump in with teaching kids that some people have 2 mums?

When i see celebrities jumping on the 'progressive/woke/liberal' bandwagon, it gives me a nosebleed.

Joanne Harris was the latest to board this train bound for 'The End of Days Junction'.

I just want to shake them. I can only assume MK doesn't know a single thing about Glitter Hole, what it means as a euphemism and what they do.

Jesus wept.

Homophobia this
Homophobia that

Fuck off no one cares you are gay. You are named after an arsehole and want to turn up in fishnets and stilettos . That might be the issue no? Its Jack shit to do with who you go home to.

Stop it.

Echoes of Gary Glitter there as well.

As it happens I'm a ratepayer in DLR so I've complained. FFS it's like women and children exist just to validate queer men. They even SAID it was to provide queer role models. Like that's what every parent wants for their three-year-old...

I love Marian Keyes, and can only assume that she doesn't know what a 'Glitter Hole' is...

Could someone on twitter tweet her the link from nauticant's post?

FFS it's like women and children exist just to validate queer men.

Exactly, you wonder who this is actually for.

Children don't need to see sexualised drag queens in order to accept gay people. I grew up without it and shock horror, I don't give a shit about which consenting adult wants to go to bed with another.

It seems like this is for validation and also for parents who desperately want to be seen as woke. It's not for the kids, they won't particularly get anything out of this that they wouldn't get from Assistant Library Manager Sue reading those stories.

But then Assistant Library Manager Sue is just a bog standard boring old cunty woman and we all know that they are like the absolute worst.

They even SAID it was to provide queer role models. Like that's what every parent wants for their three-year-old

If that were really true then why dont they ever do these things dressed like regular people. After all.if a woman turned up dressed like they do shed be called a tramp and sent home.

Want "queer" role models. What about a lesbian fire fighter. A gay nurse. Scientists , surgeons etc

Might have something to do with the fact that home alone in a dark room with no one round to see them.they are still gay and a teacher

A drag queen without an audience is just a man in a dress at home on his own

Another thing - last time I checked, the LGB - especially the G- is pretty well represented in the performing arts. Why not link in with any kids entertainment troupe if you want to familiarise kids with non-heteronormative role models? Why the need to choose an 'adult' entertainment troupe for a guarantee of gayness?
Just sit them in from on Cbeebies ffs.

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I wonder what would happen if a group of gender non-conforming people decided to start doing all these library readings instead? Y'know, just your usual genderfree cunty woman with short hair and no makeup. Or your usual bepenised man with manicured nails and wearing a pink t-shirt. Showing children that adults can wear whatever the hell they want and still be happy without confirming to the Barbie vs. GI Joe boxes.

It would tick the diversity box for its genderfree nature, yet is utterly devoid of sexualised content. Yet why do I think the Glitter Hole crew and similar groups would be shrieking outrage if libraries started hosting them instead?

For most people, being homosexual is nothing to do with frigging drag queens anyway.

The female teacher who is able to mention her wife to her class in the same way that another teacher would mention her husband, and no one bats an eyelid.

The older cousin who has married his boyfriend and for whom you are pageboy.

The friend with two mums.

Mundane, barely worthy of comment.

Surely that is how you normalise being 'queer'?

My DD saw a movie at nursery about two men getting married to each other and two women getting married to each other and came home to inform us that DH and I couldn't possibly be married as we are not the same sex. I told the nursery what she had said and they were like ... Ah, yes, maybe there are a few points missing from that movie.

Why not link in with any kids entertainment troupe if you want to familiarise kids with non-heteronormative role models?

My DD's dance teacher is gay and occasionally his boyfriend will come to class or events to help out or whatever. He is 'X's boyfriend' to the kids. That's it.

I love Marian Keyes, and can only assume that she doesn't know what a 'Glitter Hole' is...

She knows.

Mundane, barely worthy of comment.

This makes me think of something I've been uneasy about for years. The need for gay relationships to be celebrated. The goal should be for such relationships to be as unremarkable as heterosexual ones.