What the actually fucking fuck?

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47934685

"I only wanted to pretend to shoot her and her new partner - it was an accident."

What the actual fuck is wrong with men? Why? Every day it's another horrific story like this.

That last sentence “...he said he felt "really, really distressed at the thought that she got hurt because of me".”

No mate. Stop minimising via indirect language. She did not “get hurt”. You hurt her.

Also, “hurt” is one hell of a euphemism for “killed”.

That sentence should be “he said he felt really, really distressed that he had killed her”.

If the thought of killing women distresses you, there is a really, really simple way to avoid that distress. Can anyone guess what it is?

Is it?

Of course.
Men aren't doing enough, or saying enough, that's clear.
I don't see what good ignoring or rejecting those few who do speak up and speak out does.

“I don't see what good ignoring or rejecting those few who do speak up and speak out does.”

I don’t. That’s why I was asking for details.

How do they react when you pose them these difficult questions?

I had just this argument with my BIL the other day and my SIL who used to have a brain before she became a handmaiden Every single point I made it was NAMALT, "women do that too", "what about the injustices men face?" He said he was very engaged on the subject of sexual violence as his friend had just been accused of rape. Great, I said, in what way are you engaged? "By campaigning for something like this" he said, "to stop all those women who falsely accuse men of rape." I then had to endure a lecture from SIL about how feminists need to help men with stuff like this if we want them to help us back, and just focusing on women is divisive and sexist. I said "why don't we worry less about the few hundred false accusations a year and worry more about the tens of thousands of women who are getting raped and never seeing justice?" She said "we should be doing both" "OK" I said, "what are you also doing about that then?" Crickets. "So basically we need to help both women and men and we're supposed to achieve this by only helping men and anyone who just tries to focus on women are big man hating meanies?" Spluttering and hand wringing. When I suggested that maybe, just maybe, we should try and close the fucking enormous chasm of power imbalances between men and women before worrying about giving men yet more power and rights, I was labelled "aggressive" and "confrontational". And this guy truly thinks of himself as a good guy. So does my partners whole family. My partner, when I ask him about this stuff, gives his favourite answer to any difficult question - "I don't know". Often followed up by suddenly needing an early night.

If a woman kills her husband though, bloody hell does she get the book thrown at her. Even if (as is usually the case) she did it after enduring decades of abuse. No consideration for that in the sentencing whatsoever, and she's held up forever more as an example of how "women are just as bad".

The fact that people keep NAMALTing suggests to me that everyone knows that far too many MALT, but the cognitive dissonance crowd has to have some kind of mantra.

“ "The average prison sentence for men who kill their female partners is two to six years. By contrast, women who kill their partners are sentenced on average to 15 years."

“ "The average prison sentence for men who kill their female partners is two to six years. By contrast, women who kill their partners are sentenced on average to 15 years."

Any figures for the UK?

he average prison sentence for men who kill their female partners is two to six years. By contrast, women who kill their partners are sentenced on average to 15 years.

Sounds about right Too many men get off completely by saying the women consent to being killed too..

Next time you see BIL, OP, maybe tell him men commit 96% of homicides worldwide and ask him to explain that away. The statistics really are that damning. Men are responsible for nearly all violent and sex crime.

There are 5,000 women in prison in total. There are 14,000 men in prison just for sex offences.

This, of course, is why demands that men be allowed into woman only spaces pose such a threat to women and why we resist these AWAs (anti-woman activists) with such vigour.

This focuses on trans prisoners and has been posted in FWR before but it provides some male/female figures

medium.com/@evastanford/transwomen-sexual-offenders-a-closer-look-6c507d9e2414

*For UK I meant to add

I was talking about this in a university lecture last week and a female friend of mine said “but what about female violence against men”? And then, having seen an opening, a male student said, “yes and what about false rape statistics”. Jesus, I lost the plot with them all! As noted on the Andrea Dworkin thread, we are going backwards

“we are going backwards” yep.

Going backwards from where? The 1980s, 1970s, 1950s, 17th century? When was peak time for women in western society?