Transgender rights in Ireland -- what's going on?

[Lamaha]

This is reposted from another thread, quoting @Nobodysblackerthanme:

spunout.ie/life/article/recommendations-gender-recognition-act

"The report also recommended that a legal process be put in place for cases where there is not consent from both parents or it is not possible or safe to get consent."

@Nobody said: "Ireland likes to think itself as being ahead of the curve in whatever is trending (smoking ban, plastic bag tax) . I think this is just another example."

I have to say, I haven't noticed any of this, I didn't even know the law had changed in favour of TRA's. If anything, in practical terms, in daily life, it all seems pretty old-school where I live. I haven't come across any mixed sex loos, not even in Dublin.

Are Ireland's TRAs just not as aggressive as elsewhere? Is it sneakily creeping in? What is really going on? How did this happen?
If they start teaching it in school I'll be going ballistic!

Spring-cleaning all the abuse and victimisation of the past made it just too easy to head down this path, and unwittingly create a whole new arena of abuse and victimisation.

Yes - I can see that - wanting to move on and be fresh and new - forgetting that unless you've properly swept out all the cobwebs, it's all just going to grow back.

Its interesting that Malta also embraced gender self-id quickly.

Malta - the same place that has frequent anti-abortion marches..

I think that perhaps it's also the case that in smaller countries, their mechanisms of government are therefore also smaller, so there are fewer people who's ears you have to whisper in/get on side before you can pass a law.

I think that perhaps it's also the case that in smaller countries, their mechanisms of government are therefore also smaller, so there are fewer people who's ears you have to whisper in/get on side before you can pass a law.

YY Im sure that plays a significant role.

Tasmania & Iceland are pushing ahead with Non-Binary 'rights' & changes to birth certificates (removal of sex markers in favour of gender self-id)

Tasmania's already done it haven't they?

I'm a little surprised at Iceland - in other ways they seem quite sensible. I reckon it's that they're quite a desirable location for hipsters, and perhaps that's caused an influx of woke people 'disrupting' them.

Reykjavik Grapevine article:
'Iceland Set To Make Major Changes To Law Affecting Trans, Intersex And Non-Binary People'
Published February 12, 2019
(extract)
The draft of a bill currently being prepared for Parliament would make several long-overdue changes to Icelandic law regarding trans, intersex and non-binary people. Grapevine spoke with two of the people who helped craft the legislation, who see it as a tremendously positive step that could put Iceland well ahead of the pack in these areas.

The draft in question, which is to be submitted by the Prime Minister at an as yet undetermined time, covers numerous facets of gender identity.

The broad strokes

If passed into law, people will be allowed to change their registered gender without having to endure a lengthy journey through the health care system. This change will only be permitted one time, barring exceptional circumstances. As it is now, changing one’s gender in the National Registry can involve having to meet with psychiatrists and other health care workers over a period of several months before approval. Furthermore, should this draft become law, registered gender will not be limited solely to male or female, either—people will also have the option of selecting a non-binary gender, which will be marked as “X” in passports. For the purposes of the draft, non-binary people are defined as trans." (continues)
“Still a long way to go”

Grapevine spoke with two of the people who helped construct the draft, chairperson of Intersex Iceland Kitty Anderson and writer and trans activist Ugla Stefanía Kristjönudóttir Jónsdóttir, who see this draft as just the beginning." (continues)

Ugla also believes matters are at the beginning stages, while expressing confidence that things will continue to move forward.

“It’s been almost four years now since this process started and it’s been rewarding but also very challenging,” Ugla says. “This bill is taking head on very serious and deep-rooted issues in our society and how we see and treat trans people and intersex people. It’s not easy to try and deconstruct these systems and people’s way of thinking. But it ultimately feels like things are moving forward, but I am also aware that this is just beginning. We’ve put everything into this and it’s terrifying, as well as exciting.” (continues)

grapevine.is/news/2019/02/12/iceland-set-to-make-major-changes-to-law-affecting-trans-intersex-and-non-binary-people/?fbclid=IwAR14YknQkyLva03tr4VF94tzAsQhwDKkStEzSk2WFfHnN9Mb_-vYzvjlMWc

Ugla Stefanía Kristjönudóttir Jónsdóttir is well known as prominant TRA ''Owl' in the UK