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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Walkout at US highschool on transgender use of toilets

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Lamaha · 12/04/2019 16:45

www.wowt.com/content/news/Transgender-rights-clash-prompts-walkout-at-CB-Abraham-Lincoln-High-508449271.html?fbclid=IwAR1cxGTsF6XId8oPWoLPR-GAUcHMHdFy4hF8_FvNVW0rtZV4nvpeRFTDezE

The protesting students divided into two groups, one supporting girls and one suporting transgender use of the facilities. The transgender support group was twice as big as the female support group. The school says the law is on the side of the transgenders.
This is disgraceful.

Student Brandi Scherlund said, “I believe if you have the male parts you go to the males’ bathroom and if you have the female parts you go to a ladies room and that's just the way I was raised." She is quite correct.

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StopThePlanet · 12/04/2019 19:55

Our past imposes on every moment of every day (especially for peoples of color). Our nation began with raping and murdering indigenous peoples and to this day continue to marginalize, oppress, and cast them as 'others'. US shipped Africans from their homeland to a place where they would be beaten, raped, and used like objects for white man's comfort - these peoples' struggle continues just as our indigenous population. Internment camps for Japanese, railroad work for Chinese. If you aren't white, you aren't right. Painful and repulsive is our history. This is America, land of the free and home of the brave.

I'm constantly told by those around me that I am safer, privileged, and enjoy more rights than any other women on the planet simply because I'm American. Tell that to these teenagers fighting for their right to dignity and privacy; they may not experience what I have as a woman in the US but they are facing a new brand of oppression.

Because we are 'the best' 1 out of 50 children are homeless, as of 2012 upwards of 57,000 veterans are homeless. 18.5 MILLION people live in extreme poverty in the US. We have mass capitalized incarceration (disproportionately affecting people of color). 1 in 3 women will be sexually assaulted here, 1 in 6 men well experience same. 1 in 5 women will be raped and 1 in 71 men. 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys will be sexually abused. I could fill volumes with examples of treachery disguised in pride.

Our nation is focused on immigration law/building a wall, Trump everything, tariffs, special investigations, and college scams.

The TRA agenda and successes are not known or not considered to be an important issue (outside of academia and the movement). Our Representatives sign off on things that they can't or won't try to understand implications of because it's all about being famous and looking great. Unfortunately our environment is ripe for sex-based rights erosion because most of our citizens are focused on the economy and immigration. While the blind lead the blind in TRA legislation, our citizens focus on attacking each other about Trump, the economy, and immigration.

No one I have spoken to (a great number) is aware of what's going on around our nation (RE: TRA) until I fill them in and send them articles to read (from varied domestic and foreign sources). All of the people that have seen something here and there about TRA assume that these are all fully transitioned individuals. From my experience many Americans feign empathy because it makes them feel good about themselves and presents a pretty picture to those who will look. I don't think these people get the implications of turning a blind eye while assuming that none of this new legislation will affect them.

I'm not a fear monger, I'm not a hater. I believe we all (all people protected classes/castes or not) have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - but the most important part about those rights is that those rights end where another person's rights begin.

StopThePlanet · 12/04/2019 19:57

Okay I went on another rant... are you sure you want us Americans around? Blush

Lamaha · 12/04/2019 20:29

Yes. Yes. We want you. Please speak out. Please be angry. Please spread the word.

I think it all began in America, at least for me. Many, many years ago, it must have been around 2010 or so, very stealthily, American women, online friends began informing me that I was a ciswoman and that transwomen are wonderful and worthy of my compassion and needed more rights.

I thought, OK, but instinct was total rejection of this word. Didn't think much about the rest of it. Those same people, women, went on to mock anyone who didn't think that "gender-neutral bathrooms" were totally the best thing since sliced bread (what's so good about sliced bread anyway?). And I always knew: NO. I finally peaktransed in autumn 2018 and here I am.

It started with you all, and you need to speak out, more loudly. Please.

(I'm not in the UK. I was totally shocked to discover that Ireland is absolutely on board with self-ID. I haven't, fortunately, noticed much of that around and where I live it's still pretty traditional. Women are still women here,)

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 12/04/2019 20:34

For a country where people are cool with saying ‘god bless America!’ and ‘I swear by the holy bible and all the saints... the devil made me take the money/have sex with that prostitute/run over my own meemaw... bless me Jesus! What’s that Jesus? You... you forgive me? You want me to remain pastor and for everyone to give me more money and cars? Praise be!’ Etc in public without any embarrassment - they certainly are cool about all this.

WelshMoth · 12/04/2019 21:19

I hope every single girl making their protest is made aware of how monumentally important they are to this movement.

These girls are warriors and they need to keep on pushing.

I 100% support them.

CircleofWillis · 12/04/2019 22:12

Lamaha Women are still women here,)

But are men women too?

StopThePlanet · 12/04/2019 22:49

I managed to peak my mom recently and my neighbor; both brilliant women - one a conservative and one a liberal. They both have been ignoring or just not present in the conversation about TRA (for the reasons I stated in my previous post). They both on their own asked me to write about it... I have a loud voice and I'm warm and receptive in person so they think I can make a difference.

My friends with daughters are blown away by the things I tell them and are now starting to pay attention to the news. The TRA are far ahead of our general population in just being aware of what is happening. TRA legislation is making its way through the ranks in almost every state and no one seems to be paying attention.

I am angry and I am saddened but I am a force to be reckoned with and I intend to make a difference. You will be the first to know when my projects are ready.

BettyFloop · 12/04/2019 22:53

I hope every single girl making their protest is made aware of how monumentally important they are to this movement.

These girls are warriors and they need to keep on pushing.

I 100% support them.

My feelings exactly. I felt so proud of them for standing up for their comfort, safety, privacy and dignity - together. I hope they're trail blazers and other girls will act on their example.
Courage calls to courage....

littlbrowndog · 12/04/2019 23:08

Great post. Stoptheplanet

redredrobins · 12/04/2019 23:08

StopThePlanet

As a mother in law of a young American women, I want to say thank you for standing up for her (I try to tell her what is happening but she is in academia so doesn't dare question too much).
You are an example of the best of the USA (a country that I like very much).

littlbrowndog · 12/04/2019 23:09

It’s being snuck in everywhere. Fucking snuck in

SarahTancredi · 12/04/2019 23:09

To those girls.

We hear you
We agree with you
There are more than just the 20 of you
You arent bigots
You arent going crazy

You are so brave. Flowers

MoltenLasagne · 12/04/2019 23:10

The walkout was triggered by a female student who believes her privacy is being invaded by a student who recently began to identify as a girl.

This to me sounds as though the female student is being personally harassed and the transitioning student is doing so to intentionally invade her privacy.

littlbrowndog · 12/04/2019 23:13

They are not a transition student. They are just either at it or confused teens

In this country you cannot transition till 18 not sure about USA

BickerinBrattle · 13/04/2019 03:06

The so-called "left" in the US, in support of genderism, is now arguing in the courts that teenage girls have no right of bodily privacy.

They are SO being played. In Griswold v, Connecticut the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution included a "penumbral" unwritten right to bodily privacy and therefore the stse of Connecticut couldn't intervene in a woman's decision to use birth control. The Court then extended the Griswold decision in writing the Roe decision that gave women the right to abortion.

In arguing, for the sake of trans rights, that this right to bodily privacy doesn't exist, the stupid and misogynist so-called left is doing the work of the Christian right. Undo the legal principle on which Griswold and Roe were based, and American women will no longer be able to control their fertility and therefore will no longer be free in any meaningful sense of the word.

Lamaha · 13/04/2019 08:54

The girls' names are Elana Owens and Brandi Scherlund. May they be an inspiration to others. I'm pretty sure there are girls like them in schools all over the US, just too intimidated to speak out. It is indeed daunting but there is strength in numbers and the numbers are surely behind them.

Interesting though to see the larger group of pro-trans people retired to the top of a hill. And boo to the girls who joined them.

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2BthatUnnoticed · 13/04/2019 09:17

And this is what they are facing...

Walkout at US highschool on transgender use of toilets
GaraMedouar · 13/04/2019 09:29

Oh my goodness me. I noticed that the headmistress was choosing her words very carefully indeed. She didn’t look happy or in agreement with the law at all.

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:36

The girls' names are Elana Owens and Brandi Scherlund. May they be an inspiration to others. I'm pretty sure there are girls like them in schools all over the US, just too intimidated to speak out. It is indeed daunting but there is strength in numbers and the numbers are surely behind them.

I wish we could get a message to them to say how much we support them, that they are right to do this and tell them how brave they are.

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:38

In this country you cannot transition till 18 not sure about USA

I think you can have "top surgery" at least as a young teenager.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 13/04/2019 09:38

I haven’t read around the whole story but - good for those girls standing up for themselves. Women are taught to be nice, don’t make a fuss, let the boy win/have the toy...

Ereshkigal · 13/04/2019 09:45

The story of Lila Perry and the utter and total disrespect and disregard for the feelings of the girls was my peak moment.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3219186/Almost-200-Missouri-students-walk-class-protest-transgender-high-school-senior-allowed-use-girls-bathroom.html

T1meForDebate · 13/04/2019 10:31

Now those really are stunning and brave girls

Lamaha · 13/04/2019 10:34

I wish we could get a message to them to say how much we support them, that they are right to do this and tell them how brave they are.

That's why I posted their names, in the hope that they google themselves and find this thread. If they do: Waves Hi girls, well done! Flowers

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T1meForDebate · 13/04/2019 10:35

I wonder if some of the girls especially who joined the pro trans group did so because it was larger - and one thing teens can't bear is being out of fashion, unpopular, on the sidelines? Flocking behaviour in teens is very common

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