Hayden and their latest case

[Amalfimamma]

So this is the latest message to intimidate after their idea to compile a list of gc women

seem to have missed the grey rock thing but happy to join in

JessicaWakefieldSV

Both of them tweet quoted SH originally, both of them have deleted that specific tweet. SH replies to Caroline Hirons thanking her for her tweet, that tweet has been deleted.

Anyway, you’re not missing out by not knowing who they are. it’s only really becomes interesting when you look at Sali different circles of friends, one day she’ll get embroiled in the feminism v trans activists and it’ll be interesting to see which way she falls.

Could someone please pm me the screenshots as well? ta v much

Can't pm screenshots on here I'm afraid. I wish it wasn't so.

In Austria they sell sweets that look just like grey rocks. Bit odd, but true.

Well i do look at the caroline hirons site

Its a very great shame if she has just reacted to the 'mumsnet =bad....anyone who dislikes mumsnet = good' trope

Where are you Hayden taking action against the men that murder women

Instead of doing the stuff you are doing to harass women.

Why don’t you turn your work into helping women

Look at recent threads on this forum at the women who are being murdered

Murdered by those who are meant to love them

Just to spend your life harassing women. Look at the threads on here

For once it’s not always about you.

No point appealing to a narcissist.

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Has anyone posted this on the main boards? Every Mumsnetter needs to know about this really. Lots of people believe that this forum is anonymous.

Rufus there was a bit more to the CH situation.
In brief, a couple of years ago on Style and Beauty there was an ongoing discussion about beauty bloggers. It morphed into a separate thread about CH which became a series of at least 3 threads. Some posts were quite unpleasant.
I'd best not say anything further.

Wow TheOtherPamAyres that blog!

closdes

Thank you for the explanation

my point was kinda that she was doing

'The enemy of my ememy is my friend' type thing

Yes Rufus, exactly.

I get Sali H and CH being angry about specific threads and MNHQ's lack of action (as they perceive it). It's still incredibly disappointing that they want to see an entire site, run mainly by and for women, and that is an amazing source of support for many, closed down. SH is very explicit on the Twitter thread that Sali & CH liked that closing down MN is SH's aim, so they can't be in any doubt.

I'm sure that there must be any amount of crap out there about Sali & CH (both of whose work I really like, btw) on Twitter & FB. I bet there's loads of horrible misogyny, fantasies of sexual violence etc- no women in the public eye can escape. Yet I don't see them calling for those sites to be shut down. Funny how it's only women who apparently deserve to be silenced

Article about this in the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/mumsnet-ordered-to-reveal-name-of-user-in-row-with-trans-activist-stephanie-hayden-rzmvl2q8z

LOL at the last line. I hope The Times has its grey rocks handy

Does anyone have a share token? The Times blocks now before reading the first paragraph.

Oh good article.

I can't do share tokens, Closdes, but you can register for 2 free articles a week.

Thanks Zebras I did register some time ago but still can't access this one.
Steph's Tweet suggests she sees this article as a win. Did Justine throw her users under the bus?

Er yes, I thought Steph's take on Justine's quote, was lightly strange

Anyway: this line:

Lawyers said that if the personal details provided by “ALittleHelp18” proved to be fake, Mumsnet was not likely to be in breach of the order and that forcing a website to verify the accuracy of all their users’ details would be a step too far.

Looks like Steph is not bringing down Mumsnet anytime soon.

Sorry, that 'yes' doesn't mean I think Justine threw MN users under the bus - she says she will contest these court orders for user if they ask her to.

It was yes, Steph's take was a little strange seeing it as a 'win.'

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-ordered-to-reveal-name-of-user-in-row-with-trans-activist-stephanie-hayden-rzmvl2q8z?shareToken=74360cd6c7484aecd37a2f45c5e59d13

Cheers Latin

Good article - simple and concise.

I'm a little confused by SH take tho, as they seem to have taken Justine saying "Mumsnet did not oppose Ms Hayden’s application." as capitulation, or agreement of wrong doing.

Also SH seems to have asked for a users address, and as a PBP they know this info is not part of signing up.

Thanks for the share Latin.

Agree, Steph's tweet is really odd. Do they think no one will read the article for themselves?