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Caroline Farrow Support Thread

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GeordieGenes · 01/04/2019 23:05

Caroline, I am honestly almost in tears looking at your Twitter feed tonight. Sad

Her kids have been doxxed by the good doctor.

She is continuing to receive harassment from TRAs. Someone has just sent a pizza to her house.

We all need to get behind her. They think she's a weaker target because of her Catholic views, I'm sure. Let's get on Twitter and report everyone that is sending her abuse.

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pombear · 03/04/2019 01:20

Pottering around, still not in bed, ah well!

why is anyone with a mind that is woman/female dismissed? Oh, this 'ladybrain' theme. Lime why not start a thread asking this question, it's a biggie, as you'll know from being here for so long.

All I know is I have a sense of woman too. (No I'm not having a go at defining before anyone asks lol as that's never gone down well)

Also Lime earlier: "No fence can self-identify as anything as it's a fence"

FFS. Even the definition of a fence gets better boundaries than the definition of 'woman'! (Given that a fence can also be a boundary, now off to explode head!)

And yet again. Back to OP's thread purpose. Here's some night Flowers to Caro.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 01:24

How do males know what a 'female mind' feels like? Gender stereotypes - that's how

I wouldn't know but I'm glad my mind matches up body to mind. I have a sense of both. I'm capable of thinking what it must be like to not match up. Must be terrifying.

ToeToToe · 03/04/2019 01:31

Start a thread, derailer. In fact there's many threads already open on FWR on exactly this topic. Join those.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 01:35

I've only replied to posts on here aimed at me.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 01:37

Or if someone has asked or stated something, maybe disagreed doesn't mean I'm not interested in others points of view

ToeToToe · 03/04/2019 01:38

And remember that Mumsnet's tagline is to support parents. This is a thread to support Caro and her children.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 01:42

Yes, it is to support parents. There's a lot of parents on here. Not sure what you're getting at? I'm one myself. Being a parent doesn't mean posting what you like online though whoever it's coming from

ToeToToe · 03/04/2019 01:43

It's a support thread for Caro. Take your discussion to a more appropriate thread.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 01:54

People need to stop asking me stuff or accusing then if they don't want me to respond

BitOfFun · 03/04/2019 02:00

I'm so sorry you are going through this, Caro. You have my utmost respect for how dignified you have been throughout this entire disgraceful episode.

Oscarino · 03/04/2019 03:05

All my support to you Caro.

As for some of the behaviour on this thread, I quote from Wikipedia...

Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one's own competence, accomplishments or capabilities.
A historical example of hubris was furnished by General George Armstrong Custer in the decisions that culminated in the Battle of Little Big Horn; Custer is apocryphally quoted as having exclaimed: "Where did all those damned Indians come from?"

Maybe they were “radicalised by Mumsnet”

borntobequiet · 03/04/2019 05:05

Adding my support for Caroline (despite probably disagreeing with her on religion in any form).

Ereshkigal · 03/04/2019 06:13

They realise that whatever it is they think they are identifying as, it's not demonstrated anywhere on the biggest gathering of women on the planet.

I think that is the case for many TRAs. They don't have anything in common with the average woman, they just want to take over the category and/or prevent women from having one. For a variety of reasons.

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MhairiV · 03/04/2019 07:14

Christ almighty. There's few things as feeble and desperate as a bunch of guys getting their kicks out of chasing a woman across the internet and then back-slapping each other for being stunning and brave digital warriors. Get a grip. The behaviour on this thread is repulsive.

Caro, sending a virtual hand squeeze to youThanks
You shouldn't have to put up with this. I'm sure you are recording every single little thing but please also consider the police, even just so that there's a record of incidents. This pattern of behaviour is escalating. It's so important they recognise that.

OrchidInTheSun · 03/04/2019 07:45

Isn't religious belief a protected characteristic under the EA? So harassing someone for their beliefs is against the law. I hope Caro is getting advice from a properly qualified lawyer

teawamutu · 03/04/2019 07:46

Caro, I remember you I think from the Alfie Evans case and I disagreed passionately with you. We probably disagree on many things.

The above is to make the point that you're not part of my 'natural' echo chamber, so you've helped me think critically and move away from unthinking tribal viewpoints.

I salute your courage and grace under fire. And have nothing but total contempt for those targeting you - spite, aggression and fond belief that we're all really stupid enough to be fooled by I didn't mention her name so I didn't mean her.

Pathetic.

Madhairday · 03/04/2019 07:49

Another coming out of lurk mode here to add support to Caro. I'm so sorry for what you've been going through and so disgusted by the threats of violence you've been facing. Impressed by the way you are standing up against it with dignity. Thank you. I do share faith with you too (though I'm not of the Catholic variety, and we probably disagree on a good few things - but one of the things it is so fantastic to see here is people putting differences aside in order to support) Flowers

There are indeed many, many lurkers here, and we are telling people in RL, we are horrified and terrified about what is going on under the guise of sparkly rainbow happiness. I've just seen the NHS thread and I feel so helpless, it's like a juggernaut out of control. But we can do the small things. We can tell others. One at a time. I haven't quite managed to persuade my achingly woke 15 year old ds yet, he is too busy trying to be kind, but my DD is right there with the GC position and has persuaded a few of her friends. They are amazing and strong and articulate.

We are out there and we see what is happening.

Caro Flowers

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 03/04/2019 07:55

I've only replied to posts on here aimed at me.

UNTRUE. Nice posted upthread They seem to actively dislike women. All this talk of being born in the wrong body, feeling like a woman, thinking like a woman. Posie once talked about this "pornified version" of a woman, and I believe that for many men this is what it is.

You quoted Nice and started arguing against her point of view. Nice wasn't directing her comment at you. It was a general observation. So you're not just replying at posts aimed at you.

FWIW I agree with Nice and all those others that have commented on how unlike women these TRAs behave. They behave like the very worst AWAs, like they truly hate women, and then claim they 'feel' like women. Pull the other one. Being a woman is about biological, tangible reality.

Again, support for Caro. Like me, as an actual woman I expect she's fairly busy with kids this morning. I need to get off mumsnet...

SkunkButtRug · 03/04/2019 07:57

Another lurker checking in. We are here. We see what's going on and we support Caro. Thanks

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 03/04/2019 07:58

Well this womanly woman has her period today. Aren’t I stunning?

Go on. Believe yourself into that, I dare you.

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ColintheCrow · 03/04/2019 07:59

Flowers Caro from yet another FWR lurker. Horrified at the way you have been treated for biological truths.

Cuntysnark · 03/04/2019 08:06

Another message of support. Look over your shoulder Caro, we are all here. It’s awful that you’ve been pushed to the front but what an army behind you.

MrsBartlettforthewin · 03/04/2019 08:08

Have read the whole thread and looked at the stuff on Twitter and couldn't stay lurking any longer. Just wanted to put my hand up and say I support Caroline. This whole thing is disgusting and I hope you are getting good legal advice in the real world.

We see them and what they are doing and the real world is beginning to see them for what they are.

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