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Caroline Farrow Support Thread

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GeordieGenes · 01/04/2019 23:05

Caroline, I am honestly almost in tears looking at your Twitter feed tonight. Sad

Her kids have been doxxed by the good doctor.

She is continuing to receive harassment from TRAs. Someone has just sent a pizza to her house.

We all need to get behind her. They think she's a weaker target because of her Catholic views, I'm sure. Let's get on Twitter and report everyone that is sending her abuse.

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pombear · 02/04/2019 23:37

Rufus? Fence-sitting? I doubt Rufus will be pulling any wood splinters out of Rufus's nether regions before going to bed this evening.

Mind you, it depends whether you're trying to make the fence self-identfy to be a huge spectrum-fence?

And actually, even trying to define that there's a 'fence' seems to be trying to put us all back in the tribalism, 'with us/against us', 'evil vs good' 'right side of history/wrong side of history' boxes.

I used to be agreed with on here when I was first learning about all this on here

That's the nature of debate - sometimes when an issue is given the opportunity and sunlight to be discussed, thought about, and examined, the level of agreement with some people's views may change. No wonder there were many who wanted #nodebate. Seems to translate on this issue to 'stop disagreeing with me'.

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LassOfFyvie · 02/04/2019 23:39

Posters are allowed to change names. Calling a poster out on it is not on. If you think someone is a troll or a sock puppet report it but a challenging a name change is none of anyone's business.

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FloralBunting · 02/04/2019 23:41

Yes, Lass, that'll be why I just said I didn't fucking care and asked if they'd like to contribute to the thread as intended.

LimeKiwi · 02/04/2019 23:41

Mind you, it depends whether you're trying to make the fence self-identfy to be a huge spectrum-fence?

Oookay, I never said anything about a fence self identifying to be a huge spectrum fence. That's you and your comment. Not me.
No fence can self identify as anything as it's a fence.

Datun · 02/04/2019 23:41

I didn't challenge. I asked

ToeToToe · 02/04/2019 23:44

"Post one way, or shut up no debate fuck off."

Hardly. #NoDebate is the mantra of the TRA, not us. Debate is all we do here. It's why you've chosen to do so on a support for Caro thread that is beyond me.

Unless you condone the abuse and violent threats she's receiving - which you've said you don't - I can't see what there is to "debate".

LassOfFyvie · 02/04/2019 23:49

Yes, Lass, that'll be why I just said I didn't fucking care and asked if they'd like to contribute to the thread as intended

You did more than that- it's a remarkable coincidence according to you.

Datun

I didn't challenge. I asked Yes you did ask at least twice. Why? It's none of your business. Name changing is allowed. It defeats the point if self- appointed moderators take it upon themselves to call it out.

pombear · 02/04/2019 23:50

Depends on the size of the fence you're referring to! Everyone's got their own image of what that 'fence' looks like Lime so where you think Rufus is 'sitting' may be very different to someone else's perspective.

No fence can self-identify as anything as it's a fence

Oh, Ok, you've drawn me in. Off to bed, like Rufus, but I have to ask. Quick question.

How come objective factual observation or definition makes a fence a fence but the the definition of a woman becomes fluid and difficult to describe, and open to males?

Meanwhile, back on thread-point, whilst I may disagree with many of the viewpoints Caro holds, I send support to her as I agree with the words she has used to describe objective reality, and disagree with the harrassment she is receiving as a result.

LimeKiwi · 02/04/2019 23:51

Don't care, Lime. Remarkable coincidence that you knew the exact screen name the pp referenced, even though they didn't know precisely what it was, but really, it's not important

What? Is that the exact same screen name? If so I didn't know until you said.. Just saying I'm really not them. You say the harrassed person the thread is about - I've looked at her Twitter, as I say I can see both sides and it comes from both sides.

pombear · 02/04/2019 23:53

And a goodnight Brew to the lurkers. Listening and watching helped me too, it's really enlightening, isn't it.

And 'real-life' conversations are so important. Night all.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 02/04/2019 23:56

Lime
As far as I know disagreement is expected here, but please back up your viewpoint with coherent and logical argument. You don't do that, you make a statement and wait for disagreement then you repeat your statement. Then you tell other posters off if they don't agree with you. You just state your opinions without any argument at all. When you're asked a question you don't answer, you just reword your original statement.The posters on here are very smart and informed so if you're going to challenge their view point you need to be very sure of your facts and figures.I've seen you on other boards, you just repeat and repeat. And don't diss Rufus

sackrifice · 02/04/2019 23:57

I've looked at her Twitter, as I say I can see both sides and it comes from both sides

What comes from both sides? If abusive males act like abusive males, and they have already admitted here are 8-10 of them ganging up on one woman, you expect her to do what exactly? All she is doing is responding by pointing out that male pattern abusive behaviour seems to be being committed by males.

LimeKiwi · 02/04/2019 23:58

Hardly. #NoDebate is the mantra of the TRA, not us. Debate is all we do here

Really? OK, fair enough if so. I've only seen though that you're agreed with if you post in agreement. Which I have in the past. Agreed. Never a problem. If you say anything slightly disagreeing though it's TRA, fuck off, and fully aware I'm going to get shouted DARVO at now but I don't care. It happens from both sides.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 02/04/2019 23:58

Caro Just wanted to say thank you for what you are doing, at great personal cost, to protect women and children,

I support you and am appalled at the abuse and threats you and your family have received and the terrible attitude and lack of investigation by the police and failure to protect you from further violent threats. Many, many women are supporting you. Please do let us know if there is anything we can do from signing petitions, complaining to the police or assisting with finances to fight the abusers in the courts.

Datun · 02/04/2019 23:59

I didn't challenge. I asked Yes you did ask at least twice. Why? It's none of your business. Name changing is allowed. It defeats the point if self- appointed moderators take it upon themselves to call it out.

No. I asked once. Quite casually.

I had quite a few tedious discourses with early walker, which were running on similar lines. And wanted to avoid going over the same ground that we'd been over before.

Many posters name change and let you know why. You, for instance did that.
It's not a big deal, but I thought I'd ask, on the off chance.

sackrifice · 03/04/2019 00:00

LimeKiwi why not start your own debating thread? Set out your points nice and clearly so that we can see what they actually are.

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 00:04

*LimeKiwi why not start your own debating thread? Set out your points nice and clearly so that we can see what they actually are

I've been answering what's been said to me on here

Absolutepowercorrupts · 03/04/2019 00:05

pombear
Enlightening is the best word for a thread like this. All of us lurkers show up.

Absolutepowercorrupts · 03/04/2019 00:08

lime
That's your problem, you have no points, you just respond. If you don't have an opinion or fact based viewpoint then you're fucked and will be found out every time

FloralBunting · 03/04/2019 00:08

I did think it was a remarkable coincidence, yes. And I also said I didn't care, as LimeKiwi's tedious merry go round of off the point posts is just dull whether they had a previous name or not. As the ever patient Datun pointed out, it would be nice not to have to retread previous conversations.

Kudos to the lurkers taking the time to post support here. I shall continue to add my voice in that regard and encourage others to do the same. Those who wish to carry on straining at gnats and swallowing camels can carry on without me.

sackrifice · 03/04/2019 00:08

I've been answering what's been said to me on here

Start your own thread setting out your points, if you have any, clearly explaining what they are, if you have any. As many people seem to keep missing whatever it is you think you are saying. Then you can educate us on whatever those points are, can't you?

LimeKiwi · 03/04/2019 00:18

lime
That's your problem, you have no points, you just respond

So that's a problem? Responding? To things at me on posts? Maybe people could take whatever is thrown at them, me, I call any of that out as it feels like school and I hated some of what was said
there too.

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