'Female identifying mothers'

[Bluestitch]

A theatre company are looking for playwrights who identify as female mothers. The responses are fabulous, I'm particularly loving 'Daphne's' reply.

mobile.twitter.com/theatre503/status/1108859387995738112

I agree with CaptainSquirrel: they're excluding transmen and non-binary women who have given birth, but they're using "woke" language to avoid sounding exclusionary. This is queer theory rhetoric used for trans-exclusionary purposes.

And JoanMcAlpine being genuinely brave and stunning on the Screen Scotland thread.

If only there were more any like her in politics south of the border

'Female identifying mothers' ... omg, they're excluding non-binary and agender mums! ❄️

Yep they are including men who have fathered children and decided to start identifying as women/ mothers and including some women who have actually been through pregnancy and childbirth. So progressive.

Identity politics eating itself.

I'm very well versed on the trans-jargon and I'm not even sure what they're asking for.

I'm guessing transwomen who have, in the past, provided the sperm to conceive children and so now "identify" as "mothers".

They could conceivably mean actual women who have given birth - but want to exclude women who have given birth who identify as male - ie transmen. It wouldn't be the first time transmen have been completely excluded from everything

But as Penny Morduant - that champion of females - has said, mother has a specific legal definition, (apparently), in that it means the person who has given birth. Since no transwoman ever has given birth, the theatre can't mean transwomen.

Morgane oger/ogre would beg to differ. They are the most womanly mother the world has ever seen. Well in gaps between trying to shut women's rape services.

Oh yes, the feminine motherly loveliness just flows out of Morgane. It's obvious to everyone - all the mothers I know regularly campaign to de-fund Rape Crisis Centres. In fact, they rarely do anything else.

Fantastic responses - and I also found the brilliant Jenn Smith link. Looks like very few people outside of paid activists in NGOs are on board with all this.

I could swear blind I have seen that exact exchange desperate derailing attempt by "Ryan Powell" on another thread a long time ago.

Anyone else?

Not just Morgane Oger. There is another quite well known tweeter who had a heterosexual marriage and her husband fathered her children, he now identifies as wife and mother and the tweeter actually lectured someone recently who was against gay parents, talking about how her children are thriving with same sex parents and her kids haven't missed out by not having a father. I mean I agree with her sentiment but talk about identifying yourself into protected characteristics and oppression and that aren't yours!

Sorry posted too soon. Why can she not speak to parenting with a transgender parent and her unique experiences there? They are not same sex parents!

But as Penny Morduant - that champion of females..

(Snigger.)

Piers Morgan has tweeted about it now too. I always enjoy it when this nonsense reaches a massive audience which is happening more and more these days.

ADORE DAPHNE!!!!!!!!! just perfect....

Less perfect... female identifying versus male!!! Do they not even get the irony of that!!

Yep they are including men who have fathered children and decided to start identifying as women/ mothers and including some women who have actually been through pregnancy and childbirth. So progressive.

Ah, I see. Thanks for that. I was genuinely confused by what they meant, and am pretty well-acquainted with woke bullshit.

Let's be honest, the only "mother" that is going to have the time to sit down and write a play is the sort with a penis.

Geez. .. this will put natal females off and discourage them from engaging with request of this nature, further entrenching the silencing of women. The tragedy continues.

I've just seen a typo, I meant to say

*they are EXCLUDING some women who have actually been through pregnancy and childbirth.

That's how I'm reading it anyway, that self identifying is the criteria not reality.

Sometimes I can't believe how quickly and willingly 'wokeness' has crawled up its own bum.
That we've got to a stage where women with/without kids are described as 'menstruators', 'gestators' or 'female identifying mothers' is beyond parody.
We're now living life through the pages of Viz and Pseuds Corner.

Woke will eventually eat itself.

Oh yep, I'd forgotten the 'womxn' episode.

'Womxn' has reared it's ugly head again, I linked further up thread, have you seen this nonsense?

mobile.twitter.com/screenscots/status/1108390950248857601

Not to mention bleeders and cervix havers!

Oh my word. Time to clone Joan McAlpine I think, so we can all have her as an MP.
I love the pushback below, someone asking what a 'womxn' was and if it was like a yeti!

As for the 'bleeders' and 'cervix havers', it's beyond insulting. If someone suffers from such cognitive dissonance that, whilst claiming to be a woman, they can't accept the word woman then they need help to adjust. We shouldn't have to accommodate their inability to deal with the reality of what they are. Particularly if it puts women at risk.

Oh I love Daphne

Who is this person? WTAF is wrong with them?

Words. Mean. Things.