Feminism-different things to different people?

[Ella1980]

As the subject title!

I often wonder things like...

Can you be married to/in a relationship with a wealthy man and therefore not ever work but still be a feminist?

I was once married to a very wealthy man who turned out to be the most controlling man alive! He was horrified when I returned to my career after having children as he was offended by the fact that this would "challenge his male role of successful breadwinner".

I divorced him and made certain not to make the same mistake again! My fiance earns less than me on average. He doesn't define me by my gender and likewise and I love it ☺

He doesn't define me by my gender

Feminism isn't about gender.

Feminism is so many different things to so many different people that some are referring to themselves as believing in women's rights instead, as it's less ambiguous. There are the Lean In feminists (corporate career women), the "sex-work-is-work" feminists, the SAHM feminists (valuing women's traditional work), Greenham feminists, soldier feminists, you name it.

What I mean by that is he doesn't stereotype me because I am female if that makes sense? So, for example, my ex believes women should do what men tell them and that they should stay at home with the kids, men are more important etc... Is that more to do with sexism though?

I think so. I don't think I stopped being a feminist when I was a full-time child-carer, so not contributing financially to the household. I realise that's not quite the same as your example. As you say, the wealth/earnings of one partner doesn't mean that the other partner does not also contribute, whether financially or otherwise. Your ex sounds like a plonker, he happened to be a wealthy plonker. My view of feminism is about respect and not limiting or being limited by gender.

Maybe it's more about everybody being treated fairly? Is there a word for that? So regardless of gender/race/background/religion/sexuality etc... Now that's a world I wish we lived in! ☺

Feminism is the liberation of women. Different feminist believe in different ways to achieve this.

But is that "discriminating" against men? Can you be a feminist and want equality for both men and women at the same time?

Maybe it's more about everybody being treated fairly? Is there a word for that? So regardless of gender/race/background/religion/sexuality etc... Now that's a world I wish we lived in! ☺

How is that feminism?

But is that "discriminating" against men? Can you be a feminist and want equality for both men and women at the same time?

Have you ever been here before?

Surely it's not about believing women are superior to men though?

want equality for both men and women at the same time?

Not really sure you could have equality for one without equality for the other , or have I missed something here ?

Surely it's not about believing women are superior to men though?

Who has said that?

Just that I'm lead to believe that everybody being treated fairly is "not feminism"?

Everybody being treated fairly is feminism IMO.

For me the thing that I'm struggling with at the moment is it seems to have fractured into two groups, over who gets to be considered a woman. That's not the feminism I initially signed up for, but it's where I'm at. One word makes me angry - "Womxn"

I really can't tell if this is serious or not.

The word woman actually makes you angry.
Nah, I do t get it.

Yes, feminism is about have equality of legal rights as the other half of the population, the same work rights and career progression opportunities, or to be treated with equal respect and value if you choose to SAH.

There are different ways of achieving that though, some believe its about changing capitalism, as it supports sexism and erosion of women's rights, some work for change from within as recognised groups, others as individuals. Women's spaces are part of feminist work.

I can't Cole either...liked this though
Have you ever been here before?

Everybody being treated fairly is feminism IMO.

Isn't that equity, not feminism?

@ColeHawlins So what is feminism to you?

A belief (based on experience and/or analysis) that women in society are systematically disadvantaged and actively discriminated against because of their sex, combined with the commitment to challenge (through critique) and overthrow (through activism) the conditions that legitimate such discrimination, as well as the discrimination itself (Kemp, s & Squires, J (eds). Feminisms, series: Oxford Readers (Oxford OUP, 1997)

There you go OP

This definition refers to equality...

feminism
/ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/
noun
the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Have your answers now then?

I can't Cole either...liked this though
Have you ever been here before?**

I can't sleep but I'm just too tired for this

A belief (based on experience and/or analysis) that women in society are systematically disadvantaged and actively discriminated against because of their sex, combined with the commitment to challenge (through critique) and overthrow (through activism) the conditions that legitimate such discrimination, as well as the discrimination itself (Kemp, s & Squires, J (eds). Feminisms, series: Oxford Readers (Oxford OUP, 1997)

That's covered it.

Try again;

I can't Cole either...liked this though
Have you ever been here before?**

I can't sleep but I'm just too tired for this 

A belief (based on experience and/or analysis) that women in society are systematically disadvantaged and actively discriminated against because of their sex, combined with the commitment to challenge (through critique) and overthrow (through activism) the conditions that legitimate such discrimination, as well as the discrimination itself (Kemp, s & Squires, J (eds). Feminisms, series: Oxford Readers (Oxford OUP, 1997)

That's covered it. 

Oh I give up Time for bed.