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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism-different things to different people?

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Ella1980 · 21/03/2019 01:20

As the subject title!

I often wonder things like...

Can you be married to/in a relationship with a wealthy man and therefore not ever work but still be a feminist?

I was once married to a very wealthy man who turned out to be the most controlling man alive! He was horrified when I returned to my career after having children as he was offended by the fact that this would "challenge his male role of successful breadwinner".

I divorced him and made certain not to make the same mistake again! My fiance earns less than me on average. He doesn't define me by my gender and likewise and I love it ☺

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Smotheroffive · 21/03/2019 15:22

LeesPosters I get that, totally. I will not write it again, but celebrate the word woman instead! Thank you for enlightening me.

NeurotrashWarrior · 21/03/2019 16:31

Well if feminism aims to protect us from financial abuse then I'm strongly in favour of that. Marriage certainly doesn't! Well, not in my case at any rate.

Julie Bindel is very against marriage I believe.

This image is always helpful when discussing what equality and equity is and how feminism fits in.

Take away patriarchal structures completely and there's no need for feminism.

Women need to be centred as they have less as they're oppressed due to their sex.

Feminism-different things to different people?
NeurotrashWarrior · 21/03/2019 16:33

"Treating people equally doesn't mean treating them in the same way"

Ella1980 · 21/03/2019 16:48

@NeurotrashWarrior completely agree with this ☺

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NeurotrashWarrior · 21/03/2019 17:08

Liberal /3rd wave feminism has caused a lot of true understanding of feminism to be lost/ misunderstood.

A few here have said we're better off thinking of women's liberation when we talk about feminism.

I think

LeesPostersAreInFrames · 21/03/2019 19:05

Smotheroffive knew you got it Wink

In my young years I took pride in the fact that luck was called a lady. In fact, there were so few public acknowledgments of the female presence that I felt personally honored whenever nature and large ships were referred to as feminine. But as I matured, I began to resent being considered a sister to a changeling as fickle as luck, as aloof as an ocean, and as frivolous as nature. The phrase 'A woman always has the right to change her mind' played so aptly into the negative image of the female that I made myself a victim to an unwavering decision. Even if I made an inane and stupid choice, I stuck by it rather than 'be like a woman and change my mind.'

Being a woman is hard work. Not without joy and even ecstasy, but still relentless, unending work. Becoming an old female may require only being born with certain genitalia, inheriting long-living genes and the fortune not to be run over by an out-of-control truck, but to become and remain a woman command the existence and employment of genius.

The woman who survives intact and happy must be at once tender and tough. She must have convinced herself, or be in the unending process of convincing herself, that she, her values, and her choices are important. In a time a nd world where males hold sway and control, the pressure upon women to yield their rights-of-way is tremendous. And it is under those very circumstances that the woman's toughness must be in evidence.

She must resist considering herself a lesser version of her male counterpart. She is not a sculptress, poetess, authoress, Jewess, Negress, or even (now rare) in university parlance a rectoress. If she is the thing, then for her own sense of self and for the education of the ill-informed she must insist with rectitude in being the thing and in being called the thing.

A rose by any other name may smell as sweet, but a woman called by a devaluing name will only be weakened by the misnomer. She will need to prize her tenderness and be able to display it at appropriate times in order to prevent toughness from gaining total authority and to avoid becoming a mirror image of those men who value power above life, and control over love.

It is imperative that a woman keep her sense of humor intact and at the ready. She must see, even if only in secret, that she is the funniest, looniest woman in her world, which she should also see as being the most absurd world of all times. It has been said that laughter is therapeutic and amiability lengthens the life span. Women should be tough, tender, laugh as much as possible, and live long lives. The struggle for equality continues unabated, and the woman warrior who is armed with wit and courage will be among the first to celebrate victory.

by Maya Angelou

nettie434 · 21/03/2019 20:21

That diagram about equitable and equal treatment is brilliant Neurotrashwarrior. You are such a mine of information!

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