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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

New rule for trans troops in USA, stick to your birth sex or leave

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happydappy2 · 15/03/2019 18:55

New York Times, March 13, reported that trans people can enlist & serve but must use the uniforms, pronouns & sleeping/bathroom facilities for their biological sex. They will not be allowed to serve if they have a diagnosis of gender dysphoria. Apologies I can’t link the article but it is interesting.....

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misscockerspaniel · 16/03/2019 17:28

Interesting that they can enlist and serve etc. The US restrictions posted above include:

"Psychosexual Conditions:
The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestitism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias".

(Which brings to mind that character in MASH who was desperate to get out of the army).

MyBreadIsEggy · 16/03/2019 17:43

I’ve served in the British Army, and I am on board with what @Bickering said.
There is criteria you have to meet to be deployable, which is why so many medical conditions are a blanket bar on service. Someone upthread mentioned eczema. It’s one of the conditions that is judged on a case by case basis, and people easily slip through that really shouldn’t. For example, a lad I was in training with passed his medicals as he only had “mild eczema” on his hands and arms. Then we go on a 3 week field exercise in the freezing cold, pissing rain and sleeping in shell scrapes full of questionably smelling mud. His hands get cold and wet, the skin splits, his eczema gets infected and he almost lost a couple of fingers because of it.
While I have no issue with the idea of trans people living their lives how they want to, there are certain jobs which are not, and never will be “equal opportunities employers” - the military is one of them. The army don’t give a shiny fuck about your individual needs. They care that you fit the medical criteria, you meet the fitness standards, and you can do the job you are trained for. End of discussion as far as they are concerned.
The only sex-based “special treatment” I experienced was all the females in the battery (3 of us at the time), were all sent to the med centre and offered medication to hopefully delay periods when we went to Kenya for 6 weeks as their wasn’t adequate sanitary facilities or safe ways to dispose of waste sanitary products while we were there. Personally, I didn’t take the meds, I took my mooncup instead and used bottled water to clean it. Most women find their way around those kind of obstacles themselves without needing to use their vagina as an excuse for special treatment. I can’t see that being possible for trans people, with all their artificial hormone drugs etc.

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