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Political parties that actually care about women...

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yiskasha · 07/03/2019 11:30

Hi everyone,

I was a life long supporter and former member of the Labour Party. I ended my membership last year.

I was going to post this in the Politics section but thought people here may be a bit more understanding.

Are there any political parties I could look into that actually support women, and maybe are gender critical?

Thanks in advance!

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CarolinePooter · 07/03/2019 11:49

Ha! I wish.

MillytantForceit · 07/03/2019 11:54

Just the Communists at the moment.

LangCleg · 07/03/2019 11:54

Sadly, no.

DoctoressPlague · 07/03/2019 12:01

No, there isn't one, but there's going to be lots of polls and surveys on voting intentions as TIG attempts to become an official party. Make your views heard whenever and wherever you can.

birdsdestiny · 07/03/2019 12:04

Yes. Make your views heard to TIG because you can be sure transactivists will.

MillytantForceit · 07/03/2019 12:06

TIG are silent on the subject at the moment beyond:

The barriers of poverty, prejudice and discrimination facing individuals should be removed and advancement occur on the basis of merit, with inequalities reduced through the extension of opportunity, giving individuals the skills and means to open new doors and fulfil their ambitions.

www.theindependent.group/statement

yiskasha · 07/03/2019 13:41

Thanks everyone. Thought the likelihood of finding one was slim. I might try and make my own 😂

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TurboTeddy · 07/03/2019 15:59

It would seem not!

www.peaktrans.org/gender-criticism-across-the-political-spectrum/

Milly I looked at the communist party website and couldn't see any new material on the page for women; looks like it was last added to a few years ago. Do they have a new website?

TurboTeddy · 07/03/2019 16:00

I posted this last week.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3523074-Protest-voting-for-the-politically-homeless

MillytantForceit · 07/03/2019 16:00

It was the Morning Star, who came out against self-ID on the grounds that women were an oppressed minority by virtue of their sex.

Seenfromtheotherside · 07/03/2019 20:42

No centre left or left wing parties will be against trans ideology. In fact I think leftwing ideology and 3rd wave feminism lead to it. Only Conservative or religious parties will be likely be against it, so the likes of the DUP, UKIP and the right wing of the Conservative Party, those with a religious grounding or the more traditional ‘family values’ parties, the sort of ones the left have been against and some feminists have called ‘oppressive’ in the past.

Seenfromtheotherside · 07/03/2019 20:48

PS. The communist party don’t stand candidates, they just tell everyone to vote Labour. It’s a terrible and failed ideology communism is anyway.

AnyOldPrion · 07/03/2019 20:53

There was a significant breakout with Joan McAlpine of the SNP (an MSP) last week. Unlike the Labour, Lib-Dem, Green and “Women’s” Equality parties, she hasn’t immediately been ostracised.

I realise it’s not a nationwide U.K. party, and also that officially (including their leader, Nicola Sturgeon) they are still sleepwalking through Wokesville, but it was an interesting crack in the wall-to-wall Wokeness that we are used to. More interesting to see whether one woman speaking clear common sense will allow others to open up.

AnyOldPrion · 07/03/2019 20:56

Thread about Joan McAlpine

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3520786-Joan-McAlpine-on-sex-and-census-Wow

DeRigueurMortis · 07/03/2019 21:00

I've signed up to TIG and have sent an email on this subject.

I hope other women do the same.

Frankly, given how many of us feel politically alienated they would be wise to provide a home to GC women.

Seenfromtheotherside · 07/03/2019 21:55

“'ve signed up to TIG and have sent an email on this subject.

I hope other women do the same.”

TIG are not a right wing party so why do you think they’ll be any less woke than the Lib Dem’s?

DeRigueurMortis · 07/03/2019 21:59

I don't know what their position is - which is exactly why I've emailed them.

Being GC and right wing are not mutual requirements.

A lot of ex-labour members like myself would like to see a centred/left wing party respecting women's rights and denying biological reality.

DeRigueurMortis · 07/03/2019 22:00

Sorry typo - "stop denying" is what I meant.

SonicVersusGynaephobia · 07/03/2019 22:03

Seen, TIG want to do politics differently. They know people aren't happy with other party lines. There are so many women unhappy about how the other parties have thrown women under the bus, that these women need someone to listen, and somewhere to go.

TIG need the support. There's a lot of potentially very loyal support waiting for them, so long as they allow women to be defined as an adult human female.

It's our best shot, frankly.

Seenfromtheotherside · 07/03/2019 22:03

“There was a significant breakout with Joan McAlpine of the SNP (an MSP) last week. Unlike the Labour, Lib-Dem, Green and “Women’s” Equality parties, she hasn’t immediately been ostracised”.

I was told by the SNP people I met that GC was the wrong side of history, utterly bigoted and that expressing GC opinions should be a criminal offence with jail time (and might actually be) and that such thoughts were unacceptable and that thinking couldn’t be tolerated or allowed to continue.

Seenfromtheotherside · 07/03/2019 22:08

“TIG need the support. There's a lot of potentially very loyal support waiting for them, so long as they allow women to be defined as an adult human female.“

Yeah that not gonna happen

Ereshkigal · 07/03/2019 22:28

I was told by the SNP people I met that GC was the wrong side of history, utterly bigoted and that expressing GC opinions should be a criminal offence with jail time (and might actually be) and that such thoughts were unacceptable and that thinking couldn’t be tolerated or allowed to continue.

Wow. Batshit.

theOtherPamAyres · 07/03/2019 23:22

Quick Summary:

Conservatives
Pushed self i/d and made it happen, by stealth. They have outsourced policy-making to pro-trans lobby groups (eg the police's Trans Toolkit, and the Prison Service's decision-making around placing men in women's prisons with or without a GRC)
Even the Prime Minister trotted out the line that 'transwomen are women' while Maria Miller, John Bercow etc took PinkNews and Stonewall awards for progressing trans rights. Only one MP has actually stood up to defend women.

Labour
Persecuted, bullied and disciplined female Labour members. Not a single MP has taken a Gender Critical stance. Utterly failed as an Opposition party to scrutinise what the Conservatives were doing to women. Puts the rights of men to self i/d before women and girls. TWAW.

Lib Dems
Gender Critical people are not welcome, according to Baroness Lynn Featherstone. TWAW

Greens
A shameful history of disciplinary action and vexatious civil actions against gender critical people. TWAW and that's the end of it.

SNP
MSPs are showing signs of sceptism around gender identity. A handful are making gender critical noises.

WEP
Dithering, fence-sitting, trying to please everyone and thereby pleasing no-one.

categed · 07/03/2019 23:30

Snp unfortuntley are pushing through stuff to support the trans agenda. The info being put into schools is not good. They, as a party, are to concerned about seeing themselvess inclusive and woke. Lifetime snp voter now honeles 🙁

Seenfromtheotherside · 08/03/2019 00:35

“Snp unfortuntley are pushing through stuff to support the trans agenda. The info being put into schools is not good.”

I saw on the news that a primary school in Birmingham upset many of the parents with LGB education and after the parents protested the school backed down. If that happened in Scotland in the future I’m pretty sure the school wouldn’t legally be allowed to back down as I think the SNP government are making LGBT education mandatory for age five and up with absolutely no exceptions for any school whether public or private. I noticed the guardian weren’t calling the protesters bigots though, I expected the guardian and the rest of the vile gutter press to have covered it by branding the parents bigots and homophobics but was pleased that they never did.

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