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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman wins women's prize

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pachyderm · 04/03/2019 07:56

www.theguardian.com/books/2019/mar/04/non-binary-trans-author-nominated-for-womens-prize-for-fiction

Oh wait, she's trans nonbinary and doesn't identify as male or female even though she is clearly female!

FFS at this utter nonsense. I feel like I'm trapped in an unending episode of Brass Eye.

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Zeugma · 08/03/2019 09:57

At the risk of setting off previous arguments again, there was a piece about this on Radio 4's Front Row last night. A journalist called Vic Parsons (who seems to be involved with The Pool...Hmm) did in fact criticise the prize committee for not thinking through a defined policy in advance and not being clear.

She also said that if they include one 'enby' person - she didn't use that word, to be fair - in a women's prize , logically they ought to include all. Which would mean 'assigned male at birth' people (she did say this - the M word wasn't uttered either by her or the interviewer).

She ended up by referring to the patriarchy and saying that there was still a need for women's prizes, as there was for best actress awards in the Oscars, for example.

It was quite an interesting listen. There was a lot of tiptoeing around, much use of woke terms, and some cheerleading for 'inclusiveness', but the overall message was more nuanced and critical than I'd expected, tbh.

LassOfFyvie · 09/03/2019 00:44

My cynical self wonders if this is just a way to identify ones self as a different writer, something interesting for others to write about

Not sure about it being "interesting" but the cynic in me wonders that on a list which is already quite heavy on women of colour and/or non Western European situations does this give the author something to differentiate themselves?

Anyway here they are. They are the one on the left wearing the Gucci dress.

www.vogue.com/article/families-changing-the-world-vogue-february-2018-issue

OldCrone · 10/03/2019 00:43

Not sure about it being "interesting" but the cynic in me wonders that on a list which is already quite heavy on women of colour and/or non Western European situations does this give the author something to differentiate themselves?

So in January 2018, this individual was both posing in a Gucci dress as one of two sisters, and writing an article about how 'It had been five years since I figured out I was transgender'.

How come the person who said 'My friends and family know I’m not a woman' wasn't up in arms about being misgendered in Vogue?

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