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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 20/02/2019 12:19

Firing Martina from Allies is working out to be an own goal as more people stand up and speak out on this.

twitter.com/hashtag/TeamNavratilova?src=hash

We know how twitter works Hmm in regards to women speaking out so perhaps this thread could be a place to gather excellent quotes and pictures for people to spread across other platforms and show that Martina's views are shared not by a trickle of support but a tidal wave.

I feel in need of a very nice #TeamNavratilova picture to put on my fbook, any social media gurus around to advise?

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 08/03/2019 20:11

Love that thread sunset, it is really something to see that growing list isn't it?

Happy International Women's Day!

twitter.com/togetherrising/status/1104082802943889409
When a woman rises, she brings her family and her community up with her.

twitter.com/ArcilesbicaMi/status/1104077072119541761

twitter.com/SE23Nic/status/1104054271606165505
I salute these inspirational, brave, iconic sportswomen

The Winning Film
twitter.com/thewinningfilm
To the #SportsWomen of @thewinningfilm* @martina 167 Singles titles, @nadiacomaneci10 #Perfect10 9 #Olympic Medals and @EstherVergeer Ranked #1 2000-2013*

twitter.com/valor4us/status/1104038924001992707

twitter.com/Martina/status/1104029651838685190
Happy International Women’s Day to all my girls here:). One day we will have equality in every way, until then- onwards and upwards!!!!

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EweSurname · 09/03/2019 10:16

Baroness tanni grey Thompson has spoken on radio 4

mobile.twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1104300045082480641

EweSurname · 09/03/2019 18:10

Matthew Pinsent, 4 gold medal winner for rowing, speaks in support

mobile.twitter.com/matthewcpinsent/status/1104040289885478918

Matthew Pinsent
@matthewcpinsent
Sharron Davies
@sharrond62
absolutely excellent on LBC with
@ShelaghFogarty
on trans sport. 👍

EweSurname · 09/03/2019 18:16

So much sunlight

#TeamNavratilova is gathering pace!
ChattyLion · 09/03/2019 18:19

I am so pleased to see this- feels like a real sea change in favour of women’s sport. Glitterball

HumberElla · 09/03/2019 22:26

Isn’t it amazing, how a group of intelligent and knowledgeable women, with huge experience in their field and an absolute commitment to fair play, can illuminate this whole issue.
No wonder the TRA can only use bullying and silencing. Because the second you actually apply sunlight, there is no hiding the huge great massive mammoth of unfairness standing in the room.
Frankly if the law and IOC rules allows women’s sport to be so easily undermined then the law is an ass and it needs changing to protect sex segregation in competition.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 10/03/2019 00:51

www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/the_menonly_olympics.html#.XIJO7BCGz9o.twitter
Other countries aren't going to hesitate to field "transgender" men in women's competitions.

nypost.com/2019/03/04/trans-athletes-are-making-a-travesty-of-womens-sports/
We live in an age when stating the obvious is forbidden, and women’s sport may never be quite the same again.

thefederalist.com/2019/03/08/martina-navratilova-beat-communism-owned-tennis-got-eaten-transgender-mob/#.XIQ3BuSC6Ic.twitter
A woman unbroken by communism and vicious homophobia was forced to accommodate the perpetually outraged virtue signalers. That’s awesome power for the supposedly powerless.

Get this signed and out far and wide...
www.womensdeclaration.com/
This Declaration reaffirms the sex-based rights of women

twitter.com/emmajaned0lan/status/1104501464670633985
Wrong side of history my arse

janeclarejones.com/2018/09/09/gay-rights-and-trans-rights-a-compare-and-contrast/
Right now, women, feminists, lesbians, gay and straight men, intersex people, concerned parents, and many non-ideologue transwomen are fighting tooth and nail to stop the roll back of rights

twitter.com/BDimyon/status/1104490543919304709

twitter.com/TeamGB/status/1104056685503623169

twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=martina%20navratilova&src=typd

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/paralympic-star-tanni-grey-thompson-weighs-in-on-trans-sport-row-dwh90l97g

twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1104331071330676738
Speak out unless you really don’t care about a level playing field for females. It doesn’t have to be a shout just a supportive yes I’d like fairness please

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RedToothBrush · 10/03/2019 07:24

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/paralympic-star-tanni-grey-thompson-weighs-in-on-trans-sport-row-dwh90l97g
Paralympic star Tanni Grey-Thompson weighs in on trans sport row

RedToothBrush · 10/03/2019 07:49

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6791187/Now-girl-gymnasts-share-changing-rooms-boys-identify-female.html
Now girl gymnasts have to share changing rooms with boys who identify as female (and trans girls don't have to wear 'revealing' leotards)

Sanchez Manning article

ChattyLion · 10/03/2019 07:52

Amazing posts and links on here thanks everyone it is great to have these collected together. Makes it much easier to talk to others about this issue with all these examples to hand.

Ella I completely agree with you. I feel that sport is the tip of the iceberg of issues where we need sunlight and reality to be reapplied, but I feel hopeful that we will get there in time and sport is so significant in having been the issue that is starting that process of questioning. Smile

thirdfiddle · 10/03/2019 09:11

That article by JCJ. Set in contrast to RM's carefully reasoned "shut the f* up transphobes". Our philosopher's better than your philosopher :p

sackrifice · 10/03/2019 09:38

One mother, whose nine-year-old daughter competes as a gymnast, said: ‘For a long time, parents have been asking British Gymnastics why do girls have to wear leotards – could they wear shorts or leggings? So now they’ve changed the rules, but to protect boys and not the girls.’

This is the whole damn problem in a nutshell. Well done that mother.

HumberElla · 10/03/2019 12:18

The leotards thing is ridiculous. Just such obvious bulsh*t.

SpeakUpXXWomen · 11/03/2019 14:35

Oh my beating heart!
twitter.com/ChristieLinford/status/1104749363421765632
WTF!!!!!

news.sky.com/story/sky-views-sports-transgender-debate-has-been-hijacked-by-hate-11661596
Davies and others are looking to create a website where athletes who fear speaking out can anonymously submit their views on transgender participation in sport.

twitter.com/damekellyholmes/status/1104705706542944257
have girls been asked what they think of boys who identify as girls undressing in front of them @BritGymnastics* *

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/10/two-thirds-british-public-think-cheating-women-born-male-compete/
70 per cent of males agree

#TeamNavratilova
twitter.com/ThrupennyBit/status/1104884056070725633
@Martina back being heard now we can stand beside her... brave to speak out, females need to stand next to each other & protect our rights together

twitter.com/Martina/status/1104617109416370178
Not eaten my dear- I am still here, not to worry:)

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JessicaWakefieldSVH · 11/03/2019 14:37

Davies and others are looking to create a website where athletes who fear speaking out can anonymously submit their views on transgender participation in sport.

That’s great!!

Love Kelly Holmes comment re Brit gymnastics. This is excellent!

MillytantForceit · 11/03/2019 16:56

I notice no one's threatened to duff up Sgt Holmes yet.

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EweSurname · 11/03/2019 22:15

Sharron Davies MBE
@sharrond62
Great TalkSport interview tonight... surprised the guys they had no idea how bad the situation was! I think a lot of people aren’t grasping how terrible this is for woman’s sport. No surgery, no horemones, no medical diagnosis, one years reduced T. Self ID. Have a listen if about

SpeakUpXXWomen · 11/03/2019 22:17

Needs sharing ...
www.holyrood.com/articles/comment/biological-sex-legal-cornerstone-women%E2%80%99s-rights-fair-treatment
We believe the burden of proof remains with those who do not think robust data on sex, whether legal or biological, is still needed.

Glorious Holmes appreciation thread from Dr Beetle
twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1105175967763451905
the first Brit since 1920 to win two gold medals at the same games. An amazing athlete, we will all agree.

twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1105220713638694912
Great TalkSport interview tonight... surprised the guys they had no idea how bad the situation was! I think a lot of people aren’t grasping how terrible this is for woman’s sport.

twitter.com/DykeSolidarity/status/1058331612444676096
Sports solution: Women's Category & Open Category for men, transitioning males, nontransitioning males, women using testosterone, & all others who want to compete (w/in reasonable hormonal ranges). Simple. Women's class stays protected, men finally put skin in game. @Olympics**

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 11/03/2019 22:18

xpost ewesurname! Can you find a link to the interview?

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SpeakUpXXWomen · 13/03/2019 21:54

#TeamNavratilova standing firm!
twitter.com/Martina/status/1105856032712978432
Unless you want to completely remake what Women’s Sports means, there can be no blanket inclusion rule. There is nothing stereotypical about this- it’s about fairness and it’s about science.

Comprehensive look at women's sport
www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/
It also contributes to a sort of mass delusion infecting our whole society in which, thanks to the influence of the powerful LGBT movement, everybody now has to either affirm the absurd and crazy – that a man who is essentially a female impersonator can fairly compete against women – or they have to suffer abuse and persecution as bigots just for speaking the truth.

Good article linked by Davies MBE
uncommongroundmedia.com/sportswomens-rights-are-womens-rights/
It is irrefutable that male biology, and therefore male sports performance, is different to female biology and therefore female sports performance. The cause is seen by most people as just.

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JessicaWakefieldSVH · 13/03/2019 22:33

Love Martina! Thanks for the updates :)

andyoldlabour · 14/03/2019 09:37

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MillytantForceit · 14/03/2019 09:39

I know for a fact that Sir, who clearly does not have a teaching qualification, has been reported to Southampton safeguarding.

andyoldlabour · 14/03/2019 10:05

"I know for a fact that Sir, who clearly does not have a teaching qualification, has been reported to Southampton safeguarding."

I actually wondered if they were in the teaching profession or merely a fantasist. There are a lot of retweets from Green party and "woke" Labour stuff on their feed.

MillytantForceit · 14/03/2019 10:11

Suspect he's working in one of Gove's education emporiums where they get any old graduate in. Aside from anything else, the juvenile down-with-the-kids "Stay Rad" vocab is grounds for barring on its own.

You are supposed to be the grown-up in the room.

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