Telegraph article about Lib Dems

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Feminists not welcome in Lib Dems unless they support gender neutral toilets, says peer

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/05/feminists-not-welcome-lib-dems-unless-support-gender-neutral/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

"A iberal Democrat peer has claimed women cannot call themselves feminists unless they support gender neutral toilets.

Former minister Lynne Featherstone made the controversial claim as it emerged the party had recruited the transgender daughter of a convicted paedophile as a new diversity officer."

Calling for reform of the Gender Recognition Act, she added: “I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women's rights, deny their human rights or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminists. You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.”

So AC gets an official role in a party that they only joined five minutes ago?

Blimey, the LDs really have lost the plot. Or are desperate for members.

You could send her this link.

www.wateraid.org/us/media/female-friendly-toilet-guide-wateraid-unicef

What on earth is going on with the Lib Dems? Do they not engage their brains?

So AC gets an official role in a party that they only joined five minutes ago?

In Coventry, where there are no LD councillors and all three parliamentary seats are safely Labour.

I doubt that anyone else was interested in taking the post.

Although I agree that the LDs have lost the plot.

Ah, the infamous, 'Uber feminist' Baroness Featherstone, who already stabbed all women in the back earlier this year.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3304168-house-of-lords-debate-on-gender-recognition-process

In August she said:

I came to speak in this debate today because I am an uber-feminist. There are some feminists who have brought shame, I think, to the name of feminist by the level of hatred and vitriol that they have levelled at trans women. That is why I am standing here today. How little they understand this community. They should be welcoming and understanding to these new women. They should have humanity, kindness and inclusiveness in their souls. This fanatical assault is not feminism, it is false protectionism—mistaken protectionism. So to the faux feminists I say: regain your humanity and understanding. To be trans is challenging enough—with the sort of challenges that you have to go through to work in a world that has traditionally been totally binary and is now coming to grips with the fact that perhaps it is not the way we all thought it was. The attempted suicide rate should be indication enough that this is a community that needs our love and support. I am glad that we are going to try to do better.

Does 'uber feminist' mean 'meninist' then?

Former minister Lynne Featherstone made the controversial claim as it emerged the party had recruited the transgender daughter of a convicted paedophile as a new diversity officer."

It is such skill to craft a paragraph which seems neutral yet conveys, exactly, what the writer thinks. I’d pair it with an inset box of ‘why said daughter is controversial’.

Good to see we still have some journalists capable of getting the point across

Thread about Lynne Featherstone's message.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3496404-Message-from-Lynne-Featherstone-Lib-Dems

I used to be a regular guardian reader, they still have some journalists of integrity but increasingly it is the Times and the Telegraph that are braver enough to back women

Good. Because the Mail will have it next.

Uber-feminist, lol. I think the lady doth protest too much.

Has any feminist, ever, gone to Lynne Featherstone to ask for permission to feminist? Or for Lynne's personal assessment on whether or not they qualify? (How many of them know wtf Lynne is?)

How does that woman manage to get her ego through doorways?

Well an ubermensch is a superior man, so Lynne must be superior to all us bog standard boring old women’s rights activists

Thanks Lynne!

They should have humanity, kindness and inclusiveness in their souls.

Why are the LDs obsessed with souls?

Good to see this in the Telegraph. They have been surprisingly quiet on this issue, well behind first the Mail, and then The Times.

I hope that this is because their research indicates that The Times is picking up the readers The Guardian is losing. Or because Tory party research suggests that this is an issue that will lose Labour/LibDems votes so an issue to get up to speed on in case of a snap election.

It woud be very interesting to see newpaper research. The Guardian cannot long term survive on donations. It needs readers, and needs to appeal to readers. And actually the same applies to the BBC which apparently lost close on 1 million licence fee payers last year. Write for us, not preach to us.

Its important to recognise the significant number of influential TRAs who are also within the LibDems.

Many are also part of Stonewall's Trans Advisory Group, TransMedia Watch etc.

They have exerted their influence within the LibDems and elsewhere for some time.

The issue though is cross party and focus should be on those who are influencing MPs, policy and legislation
Some will seek to make gains from focus on LibDems, just as they may Greens or Labour especially at such a critical time for Westminster.

Its important to recognise the role that Maria Miller MP and other Conservatives have also played in preventing women's concerns being heard and denying discussion about women's rights and safeguarding.

Good to see this in the Telegraph. They have been surprisingly quiet on this issue, well behind first the Mail, and then The Times.

There have been a number of articles in The Telegraph.

This is co-written by Joani Walsh who has being writing articles about the subject for some time and published in other papers.

Or because Tory party research suggests that this is an issue that will lose Labour/LibDems votes so an issue to get up to speed on in case of a snap election.

It was always inevitable that attempts would be made to exploit the issue for political gain.

I am not sure it is exploiting as such. If Corbyn were to take a clearer stance on anti-Semitism this would be welcome.

The remarkable thing is how out of step all the major parties have been with ordinary people on this. The prospect of a snap election may focus minds. Especially the Tories, as their natural voter base is unlikely to believe that TWAW.

I am not sure it is exploiting as such

It will be exploited by some, has been and will continue to be.

Humanity, kindness and inclusivity can exist alongside recognising actual material reality. Humans cannot change sex.

Many people are gender nonconforming. Some elements of society have a problem with people being gender nonconforming.

How about we harangue those elements of society to tolerate feminine men and masculine women? Let'd do that instead of trying to force everyone to pretend gender non-conforming people are really the opposite sex.

It's humane, kind and inclusive to lie?

Reality isn't humane, kind and inclusive?

It's humane, kind and inclusive to remove women's rights?

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