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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trousers are gender-fluid now

78 replies

BlackForestCake · 26/01/2019 23:25

From today’s Guardian.

www.theguardian.com/fashion/2019/jan/25/grown-up-trousers-v-fantasy-gowns-red-carpet-showcases-change-award-season

And I thought they were just trousers. I guess that makes about 90% of women in the western world gender fluid.

Trousers are gender-fluid now
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Illyria47 · 27/01/2019 03:49

let's, I am an apostrophe fiend.

Njordsgrrrl · 27/01/2019 03:55

Really manly trousers need decent pockets for the keeping of seditious literature. None of your pink- brain useless pockets.

brizzledrizzle · 27/01/2019 04:06

It's not a good look to get gender fluid on your trousers, tbh. Best avoided

Grin if there were a classics for individual comments then this should be in it.

Illyria47 · 27/01/2019 04:23

Agree brzzedrizzle, that comment made me snort.

Tackytriceratops · 27/01/2019 07:16

Dammit was only here to post the Levi's Woke trousers. Not beat me to it.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 27/01/2019 07:20

Really manly trousers need decent pockets for the keeping of seditious literature

I keep my seditious literature in the pocket of my Adult Human Female hoodie.

DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 27/01/2019 08:07

Good grief. What a moronic comment. However, it's from The Guardian, so par for the course.

The Guardian cannot die a horrible painful flaming financial death soon enough.

silentcrow · 27/01/2019 08:08

Culottes must make her head spin.

Wait, wait - how does she possibly parse a salwar kameez - pants AND dress?! Does she faint at the sight of a dishdasha?

What a load of codswallop.

Oxytocindeficient · 27/01/2019 08:14

Fashion psychologist? I’ve heard it all now

abbsisspartacus · 27/01/2019 08:16

My advert us for which magazine get fact not fake reviews 🤔🤔

abbsisspartacus · 27/01/2019 08:17

I'm under the impression that trousers are male and female the zip is on the wrong side with women and men's are cut to accommodate a penis?

JSmitty · 27/01/2019 08:25

Joan of Arc, you are accused of witchcraft, what say you?

....Oh, a statement of gender fluidity, you can go then.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/01/2019 08:31

When I was a teenager I used to wear men’s 501s and men’s DMs (they don’t make women’s ones back then, fornit was in the gender fluid wear-what-the-hell-you-want 1980s).

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 27/01/2019 08:42

By wearing trousers, you’re making a statement about gender fluidity, that you don’t want to be objectified

i'm not sure that was what was going through Brigitte Bardot's mind here

conversely I expect Tyne Daly wore this skirt to signal that Mary Beth just wanted to be objectified

people who make a living providing 'analysis' so often just end up talking bollocks

Trousers are gender-fluid now
BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 27/01/2019 08:43

Oh no! brigitte didn't attach. here she is

Trousers are gender-fluid now
MIdgebabe · 27/01/2019 08:55

So wearing trousers = gender fluid

Best estimate, 95 -100% of population. Of uk wear trousers at some point

SO we are all gender fluid

So it is a pretty meaningless term.

More concerning is the assumption that some types of clothing mean you want to be objectified. I would like some examples so I can avoid but none were given in the article

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 27/01/2019 08:58

More concerning is the assumption that some types of clothing mean you want to be objectified

yes. could we not just start with the assumption that all women would first and foremost like to be seen as human beings with feelings?

when some women can't even start from that position - fucking hell.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/01/2019 09:16

I’m wearing a shirt right now. Not only was it bought from the me s department, it was purchased for DS (who took one look and said ‘I’m not wearing that!) so I am also generational fluid today.

VickyEadie · 27/01/2019 09:59

I have to say the Guardian has really upped its ‘load of old bollocks’ quota the past few months. It’s trying so hard to be pc, it’s painful to read sometimes.

and

The Guardian cannot die a horrible painful flaming financial death soon enough.

Oh yes.

feelingverylazytoday · 27/01/2019 10:15

Meh, it's a fashion writer. They always come out with a load of codswallop, presumably to hide the fact that clothes are just clothes.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/01/2019 13:34

True. I remember a much shown clip when u was a kid from the 60s of frontless dresses (boobs hanging out all over the place) as a ‘trend’. I don’t think it caught on.

Rara skirts
Puff ball skirts
Grolshe bottle lids on boots
VW logos/clocks around your neck
Platform shoes
Mega flares
Fluorescent fish nets
...

Fashion writers have a lot to answer for

BettyDuMonde · 27/01/2019 13:39

I’m wearing sweatpants and my husband’s dressing gown. I’m clearly on the cutting edge of gender fashion today!

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 27/01/2019 13:44

I’m not in my big boots and beanie hat (that’s not all).

CowJumping · 27/01/2019 20:23

Trying not to laugh out loud in the Quiet Carriage at the Levi’s Woke advert.

Now where can I buy such a style free garment?

MeganJPerry · 27/01/2019 21:41

@infinitecurve

"I am so over all this.Trousers may have been a sign of gender fluidity 100 years ago,now they are just trousers."

Moves forward to the year 2030:

Boys wearing pretty skirts may have been a sign of gender fluid 11 years ago, now they are just skirts and no one blinks an eye."