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Customers wanting Botox and dermal fillers at Superdrug face mental health check after pressure from NHS bosses

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AugustL · 20/01/2019 10:52

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6609073/Customers-wanting-Botox-dermal-fillers-Superdrug-face-mental-health-check.html

Superdrug is offering botox and fillers for people aged 25 and over.

"Customers wanting Botox and dermal fillers at Superdrug face mental health check after pressure from NHS bosses

  • Superdrug Botox and dermal fillers customers require mental health check
  • Superdrug triggered a storm of criticism when it started offering the services
  • NHS demands check for conditions such as body dysmorphic disorder "

This made me think of Sus!e Green, founder of Mermaids, who tweeted in agreement that children identifying as trans shouldn't have any psychological assessment before surgery i.e. removing their genitalia, removing breasts, creating a 'vagina'/'penis' etc. as according to her "cisgender" people don't have psychological assessment for surgery of "ANY" type . Which is untrue. She said it should just be if they are "competent", not based on age of majority. How do you think competency is assessed? Duh.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3416169-Susie-Green#prettyPhoto

I also wonder according to logic of Mermaid,s Stone wall etc. that this means NHS/Superdrug/all responsible providers are "stigmatizing" or "pathologising" people who want botox as mentally ill?

Btw the person named in Mrs Green's tweet is a trans woman (transitioned aged 40 whilst married with kids, is 61 now, still married but "no longer have a conventional marital relationship, Bowers says they are "closer than sisters")who is a gynecologist and surgeon who specializes in 'gender confirmation' surgeries. Studied under a renowned sex reassignment surgeon Stanley Biber. On her Wikipedia though it states "She has stated, "I believe the surgery should be responsibly performed for the proper, carefully screened candidates, not at age 18, but at age 16 or 17". en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marci_Bowers

Proper, carefully screened candidates. Has she changed her mind?

Also, what's that in Susie' s tweet about "removing the sterilisation clause" what's the "sterilisation clause"?

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OrangeJuicy · 22/01/2019 03:36

Good point, the push remove the need for children and adults to have Gender Dysphoria diagnosis, or mental health checks which would check competency to change sex. Here is Superdrug doing mental health checks for non-permanent injectables. Both will apparently be done by nurses.

For 'cisgender' surgeries, you do need mental health checks for lots of operations. My mother did as a kidney donor for example, and had to receive some counselling. Also they check when people get cosmetic surgery, they ask certain questions, and anyone with medical ethics have and follow these type of rules, before operating. People are refused plastic surgery by good ethical doctors for mental health/body dysmophia reasons. I've seen trans people say body dysmorphia means your trans, which it doesnt. See below*

A check is not saying trans people are mentally ill, which certain organisations and activists portray it as. It's not even necessarily about trans people. The Gender Dysphoria diagnosis should remain, to exclude people who are not trans from self-IDing and taking advantage of the situation, and to make sure children or adults are not simply gender-nonconforming or have other issues. So if the NHS intervene with Superdrug, will they keep the same energy here?

  • ^"Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), occasionally still called dysmorphophobia, is a mental disorder characterized by the obsessive idea that some aspect of one's own body part or appearance is severely flawed and warrants exceptional measures to hide or fix their dysmorphic part on their person.[1] In BDD's delusional variant, the flaw is imagined.[2] If the flaw is actual, its importance is severely exaggerated.[2] Either way, thoughts about the dysmorphia are pervasive and intrusive, occupying up to several hours a day or more. The DSM-5 categorizes BDD in the obsessive–compulsive spectrum, and distinguishes it from anorexia nervosa.

BDD is estimated to affect up to 2.4% of the population.[2] It usually starts during adolescence and affects both men and women.[2][3] The BDD subtype muscle dysmorphia, perceiving the body as too small, affects mostly males.[4] Besides thinking about it, one repetitively checks and compares the perceived flaw, and can adopt unusual routines to avoid social contact that exposes it.[2] Fearing the stigma of vanity, one usually hides the preoccupation.[2] Commonly unsuspected even by psychiatrists, BDD has been underdiagnosed.[2] Severely impairing quality of life via educational and occupational dysfunction and social isolation, BDD has high rates of suicidal thoughts and suicide attempts.[2]
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Treatment

Anti-depressant medication, such as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), and cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT) are considered effective.[5][23] SSRIs can help relieve obsessive-compulsive and delusional traits, while cognitive-behavioral therapy can help patients recognize faulty thought patterns.[5] Before treatment, it can help to provide psychoeducation, as with self-help books and support websites."^

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder

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