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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Well this is laughably impossible.

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RedemptiveCrocodile · 15/01/2019 12:38

twitter.com/Mortain/status/1084733754872975360

There is so much wrong with this tweet, I don't know where to start.

But it definitely proves the bald-faced hubris of males, does it not? "Anything c*s can do, trans can do better!"

Gah!

Well this is laughably impossible.
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OlennasWimple · 15/01/2019 16:30

Chinny reckon indeed Grin

When I donated to a milk bank, I had to have a baby under 6 months old when I started, all my milk was labelled in relation to how many weeks post-partum it was produced and the milk itself wasn't tested but I had a blood test for the sorts of things that can be passed on through milk that babies don't want (like HIV). And of course my milk had all sorts of protective, wonderous stuff in it that babies absolutely do want.

Still, Cow & Gate , Aptamil, Nestle will be chuffed - no need to spend all that money trying (and largely failing) to reproduce breast milk in a laboratory. They have been going about it all wrong, as all they need is a willing supply of men on hormones et voila! Perfect, healthier than healthy maternal breast milk!!

Hmm
ShockedHorrored · 15/01/2019 16:42

I went in to a bit of a Twitter black hole earlier and was reading various replies/threads and came across one eejit who said that apparently trans women have less testosterone than cis women because they basically get rid of all their testosterone. Can’t remember exact wording. When you read one load of bollocks and then just keep reading and there aren’t enough 🤦🏻‍♀️ In the world to express how you feel.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 15/01/2019 16:44

We will be falling over ourselves to buy transwoman breastmilk for our lucky babies instead of rubbishy ciswoman milk.

We shouldn't laugh too much though. In a couple of years we'll be banned from Twitter for saying this.

FloralBunting · 15/01/2019 16:46

Years? You know that's the plan for a fortnight's time, right?Wink

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 15/01/2019 16:48

Grin[santa]

applestrudels · 15/01/2019 16:52

In brief, the man (who was a fully intact male) was already on cross-sex hormones and taking prescribed tranquilisers and sleeping pills that he continued taking all these throughout.

That was it. That part made me particularly angry. When I was a baby my mum dropped a saucepan full of boiling oil on her feet, was in hospital for ages, and was only allowed the teeniest tiniest amount of painkiller because she was breast-feeding. Actual breastfeeding mothers have to be so careful, and sometimes have to make sacrifices one way or the other, and if they can't give up their medication they would simply bottle feed because the important thing is the baby's health, whereas for this narcissist it was all about his own validation and sod the baby.

calpop · 15/01/2019 16:55

Some of the reples on that thread are hilarious. "Are we sure the right white milky fluid was tested"?

Let these idiots carry on I say, peak transing more of the twitter sphere with every idiotic tweet.

I challenge any of these trans people that are so convinced they should be able to replace female biology to conceive a baby. Then carry it for 9 months, with the nausea, heartburn, SPD, pain, discomfort, lack of sleep that that entails, not to mention being put on the Mummy Track at work. Then give birth, in an NHS hospital, where women are left lying in their own blood and shit, have their shiny new neo vaginas, that are so much better than ours, shredded and then sewn back together wrong. Then take care of a newborn single handedly for days with no sleep. Then try and produce enough milk to feed that baby, so much needed that you wake up drenched in it. Then try and express enough milk into a few bottles a few weeks later so you can go out and have a break, probably the first one in a year. Then see how much they want to lactate and how sexually arousing it is.

But they never would even if they could None of them are strong enough for that, unlike most women.

Pandamodium · 15/01/2019 17:06

Some antipsychotic drugs for example increase prolactin levels.

I was just coming on to say a medication (risperisone) made my DH's nipples leak. It was fucking hilarious for me but he's still traumatised.

Probably TMI but it just looked like watery discharge not proper breast milk. No way would I of let my baby near it and I was BF'ing at the time.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 15/01/2019 17:06

What a complete load of shit

Why do people lie like this...are they actually delusional

Pandamodium · 15/01/2019 17:11

In brief, the man (who was a fully intact male) was already on cross-sex hormones and taking prescribed tranquilisers and sleeping pills that he continued taking all these throughout.m

That is ridiculous I had to stop breastfeeding so I could go back on my medication. I wouldn't of put my DC at risk because I'm not a narcissistic shite.

AspieAndProud · 15/01/2019 17:15

Males can lactate - if they go it means they are producing prolactin and that means something is wrong somewhere. Some antipsychotic drugs for example increase prolactin levels.

I find it very easy to believe this person is on antipsychotics.

Pandamodium · 15/01/2019 17:24

I find it very easy to believe this person is on antipsychotics.

Or at least should be. I wonder if they believe what they have wrote to be true?

Thingybob · 15/01/2019 17:25

A couple days suffering with mastitis would cure a man of this fetish

Mrsfrumble · 15/01/2019 17:26

DH was on domperidone as an anti emetic while he was having chemo, and we used to joke about how useful it would be if it made him lactate as DS was tiny and breastfeeding.

Does anyone have a reddit account? This is classic r/ThatHappened fodder.

silentcrow · 15/01/2019 17:29

Aspie I'm glad someone else caught the reference Grin

Ugh, this whole thing makes me so mad, not just because its anti-science and downright lying, but because it undermines the whole process of lactation. I donated after DD2 and I gave up SO much to do it, even though I was crap at expressing. It was a big undertaking - no allergy meds, nothing that might even slightly taint the milk. It took bloody ages, too, and was emotionally hard going. But I did it because we'd been a whisker away from needing it ourselves with DD1 and it was the right thing to do.

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 15/01/2019 17:44

Aww Mortain retweets lots of furry stuff, and we all know how stable and balanced that kink is.

Bless em.

Mortain is replying to the delightful "lubekeeper" Zinnia, a fully fledged lolcow with their own kiwi thread kiwifarms.net/threads/zinnia-jones-satana-kennedy-zachary-antolak-zack-sklar-lauren-mcnamara-soersdal-zjemptv.19416/

I'm finding it all very mooving Halo

Well this is laughably impossible.
Thingybob · 15/01/2019 17:44

There's a link on the twitter feed to a first hand account of a transwoman's attempt at breast feeding. I found it rather disturbing.

Breastfeeding is freaky. Not the sucking bit. You're reading The Stranger, so odds are you've had a titty sucked at some point in your life. No, it's because when my baby attached to my breast, there was an incredible chemical cascade that ran through my entire body like lightning. Imagine the most electric thing a partner has ever done to you, then multiply it by 10. I could feel my brain rewiring, creating pathways that would permanently connect me to my child. (And yeah, I kind of got off on it. Don't judge)

www.thestranger.com/queer-issue-2017/2017/06/21/25225867/my-first-time-breastfeeding-my-daughter

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 15/01/2019 17:45

Transwomen develop breast cancer at the same rates as women??! Really??? (See zinnias initial tweet). Is there evidence for that?

Bowlofbabelfish · 15/01/2019 17:49

No they don’t develop breast cancer at the same rate. They don’t have the same internal structure/sizes of structures as women. A man’s breast structure after female hormones will never be the same as a woman’s.

Men of course, can and do get breast cancer (and it’s often missed because it’s. It the kind of thing blokes look for and it’s the sort of thing they’re embarrassed about getting checked.

I’ll see if I can look actual rates up...

applestrudels · 15/01/2019 17:57

(And yeah, I kind of got off on it. Don't judge)

Don't worry mate, I am definitely judging you ... :/

Dragon3 · 15/01/2019 18:31

You don't know her because she goes to a different school

Grin
Bowlofbabelfish · 15/01/2019 18:34

Zinnia is incorrect

The number of people studied and duration of hormone exposure are limited but it would appear that cross-sex hormone administration does not increase the risk of breast cancer development, in either MtF or FtM transsexual individuals. Breast carcinoma incidences in both groups are comparable to male breast cancers. Cross-sex hormone treatment of transsexual subjects does not seem to be associated with an increased risk of malignant breast development.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/24010586/

ChewyLouie · 15/01/2019 18:38

Gordon Bennett why does every single thing have to be eroticised, it’s mad. All those millions of years of evolution and this is what people are attempting?!

Sexnotgender · 15/01/2019 18:41

These people are really quite fucking thick aren’t they.

OlennasWimple · 15/01/2019 18:46

These people are really quite fucking thick aren’t they.

Yes. Yes they are

And whilst I enjoyed bf once I got past the initial few weeks of feeling like I had put my boob into a stinging nettle patch at every latch on, if it were the most erotic thing that had happened to my boob (never mind ten times more erotic), I would be very sad about the state of my sex life