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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Most gender critical/female rights party?

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duriandurian · 15/01/2019 09:28

I have just realised that if there is an election soon I won't have a clue to whom I should give my vote.
I was thinking Lib Dem because Remain/Second Referendum. But the news articles I have googled don't look good. My local white, male labour MP Matt Western shot me down when I tried to raise women's vs transgender rights with wording suspiciously similar to other MPs' emails which were posted on here at the time.
Spoil my ballot? Thanks.

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R0wantrees · 16/01/2019 18:58

Also Fairplay for Women have some leaflets which are available to distribute. They're just sarting to send them out so will be current (eg post GRA consultation)

Their site has lots of information:
fairplayforwomen.com/

MrsFogi · 16/01/2019 19:01

I would echo what others are saying about emailing each of the candidates in your area to voice your concerns and ask what their view is (great time to do it even if there isn't an election because the more people who contact them about self-id the more they will realise that it is a concern). I did this and got a really encouraging response from my Conservative MP (rubbish response from other parties) so if there is an election soon he will get my vote (and I will email him to tell him why just to keep on raising the issue).
In the past I have often written "None of the above" however I think there is more to be gained by entering into a dialogue with candidates and sitting MPs given that spoilt ballots are simply binned so the candidates will not know why they have been spoilt unless individuals contact them and tell them. In the absence of that there is little more value than not voting (and I will never, never not vote given the work of the Suffragists and Suffragettes).

SpareRibFem · 16/01/2019 19:10

If anyone is considering voting lib dplease would you ask them their views of the lib dem lgbt twitter account, whether they agree that 50%male and 50%TW MPs would represent equality ( it would solve the MP pairing problem when MPs are due to or have recently given birth mind) and how goo dthey are at seeing into souls

SpareRibFem · 16/01/2019 19:10

Should say lib dem in first sentence

jamrollyolly · 16/01/2019 19:23

Thanks ROwan and Mrs Fogi I'll check those out.

SpareRibFem · 16/01/2019 19:50

A year or so ago I was convinced nothing would ever make me vote conservative in my lifetime then I came across 'Dr Drew' on twitter started following more feminist accounts and came here. I was already concerned about the attitudes of transwomen I'd encounterebut I had no idea of the scale of the problem and the shutting down of debate within the political parties. The news about the expulsion of Venice Allan from Labour whilst I'd not previously heard of her was shocking. Seeing photo after photo of Corbyn with Sophia Botha, Heather Peto, munroe Bergdorf, and many others was disturbing when he was photographed so rarely with adult female humans. I still struggle to understand how the political parties went so deep down the rabbit and how they've managed to do that without most voters realising

1hello2hello · 16/01/2019 19:56

I think spoiling your vote just means people who do vote get to determine who represents you. Because the election winner does and if thats UKIP you didn't even attempt to prevent that.

Vote for the least bad option or just on one key issue, but don't waste your vote. Contact those standing and find out their position. A mass action on raising the importance of the GC view of self-ID would surely be more effective upfront than an after the event explanation of low votes.

SpareRibFem · 17/01/2019 12:41

Ihaventgottimeforthis the Lib Dems are awful, their official lgbt twitter account is just disgusting, young libdem is not Greta but not as vile as their lgbt account. Brian Paddick was so unpleasant to the women who came to talk to him about their concerns over self id (after he'd asked people to talk to him) that he issued a blanket half hearted apology but didn't approach them individually. They have declared 50% TW MPs would represent gender equality and of course most recently welcoming A Challenor with open arms

Purplewithgreenspots · 17/01/2019 21:59

I’ve never been a political party type person, being of the view that they are essentially all like each other. I have matured over the years, though.
I started off voting for the name I liked most (a hard choice!), moved onto voting for my local Tory because he actually took the time to talk to me. Very annoyed about the ‘whoever voted for the Tories is evil’ stance. I didn’t vote for the party, I voted for my MP.
Now I have a tory MP who is very TWAW, and no one will tell me who is standing against him so I can ask them.

theOtherPamAyres · 17/01/2019 23:24

Now I have a tory MP who is very TWAW, and no one will tell me who is standing against him

Local parties wait until an election is due before they select a candidate to run against a sitting MP. You may not get a name until 2021 (the next General Election is on 5th May 2022, unless the Conservatives go belly-up).

The trouble with a newly elected MP is that they spend 12 months learning the job and finding their way around Westminster, Whitehall and the constituency - and seem disinclined to put their head above the parapet unless they have some particular expertise/background in the subject.

On the plus side, they may well be so ignorant of the issues for women that they might appreciate a good briefing - like a leaflet from Fairplay For Women.

1hello2hello · 18/01/2019 09:50

*Now I have a tory MP who is very TWAW, and no one will tell me who is standing against him

Local parties wait until an election is due before they select a candidate to run against a sitting MP. You may not get a name until 2021 (the next General Election is on 5th May 2022, unless the Conservatives go belly-up).*

May 2019 has a round of local council elections (30 unitary authorities have whole council up for election & more have 1/3). We could practice our influencing skills on candidates in those. Do not underestimate that MPs listen to leaders of their local councils / local party chairperson. Local councillors should be aware of safeguarding but are also those who nod through unisex changing at leisure centres at planning.

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theOtherPamAyres · 18/01/2019 10:47

@1hello

local council elections (30 unitary authorities have whole council up for election & more have 1/3). We could practice our influencing skills on candidates in those

Absolutely spot on. It would be useful for local parties to be made aware of the strength of feeling. After all, they do all the hard work and fund raising to get their MP and local councillors elected/re-elected.

Traditionally, there is a low turn-out at local elections. Canvassers concentrate on the demographic that is most likely to vote (ie older people). It would be great to see women of all ages galvanised into probing candidates and then attending the vote to make their mark.

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