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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Bath Leisure Centre, naked men in ‘changing village’

139 replies

MrsSnippyPants · 09/01/2019 08:46

Can anyone local confirm what the changing facilities are for swimming?
twitter.com/jeanhatchet/status/1082908745682829312?s=21

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/01/2019 17:05

I’d think that a lot of women wouldn’t protest or ‘male a fuss’.

Make a fuss people!

JSmitty · 15/01/2019 17:06

This is why we have sociologists.

Rather like Blair's relaxed licensing laws and the optimistic belief that bringing them in would of itself lead to the development of a European style cafe-culture.

Aside from the weather and all, it don't work like that.

In the Scandi countries there is a different attitude to nudity, but it is not 'relaxed' in the sense that nobody minds. It is relentlessly and strictly policed by citizens who call out aberrant behaviour individiually and collectively. Everybody knows the informal code and makes sure everybody sticks to it.

CowJumping · 15/01/2019 18:54

I'm no prude, but I want control over who sees my body, and in what context. I want choice.

GoGoGadgetGin · 15/01/2019 18:59

Wow vix thank you so much for your segment today on the Vine show. I was appalled at 'liz' and her 'men like to see breasts therefore we shouldn't have an issue seeing their penises' stance!

Angryresister · 15/01/2019 19:10

My local pool ( not in UK ) has three different words for woman and man. Very clearly marked separate changing facilities for men and woman, with separate changing rooms for children with a male person and children with a female person. Inside the separate changing areas there are small lockable cubicles but with gaps. I felt completely safe in that no one could ever claim to have made a mistake. Completely comfortable as there were only other women naked in showers and changing room.

howonearthdidwegethere · 15/01/2019 19:18

Vix: you were fab on the JV show.

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mytieisascarf · 15/01/2019 19:24

We have had these changing villages in all local authority pools where I am for literally decades. There are rows of cubicles (like those in the pictures posted above), there are rows of family sized, a row of disabled, a family changing space (like a large room for larger groups). The showers are all open. I had never experienced anything different until I went to a hotel with my family as an adult. I would love to see the stats on indecent behaviour here. I personally prefer an village approach. I can take my boy and girl swimming without a male adult present. Everyone has the privacy they require.

CowJumping · 15/01/2019 19:54

Just listened to the JV show on the iPlayer - you were terrific, Vix.

I agree with the other speaker that it would be great to de-sexualise human bodies. BUT that needs to be done with and by people and with their consent, not imposed on them.

And while there is still a deep (and I think getting worse) difference between the way our society looks at female bodies and male bodies, it is far from unreasonable that women and girls are given the respect of consent and control over the ways in which they reveal - or not - their bodies in public space.

AgentCooper · 15/01/2019 20:04

God, that's horrible. And weird! My local pool (East Renfrewshire) has a changing village and I have never, ever in 20 years seen anyone naked outside a cubicle except tiny children.

TeacupDrama · 15/01/2019 20:16

our local pool has always had a "changing village" it is all cubicles plus 3 family and 1 large disabled changing room; there is no open changing for anything schools swimming lessons etc there are male / female toilets; the only showers are open beside the pool, I have never seen anyone over the age of 2 naked and that was because he ran off

Dothehappydance · 15/01/2019 23:35

The majority of posters who have used changing villages for years don't seem to have any issues with naked men. What is going so wrong with the men of Bath? What is so different there that means these incidents occurred?

The seeing a man pee for example would never happen at any of the ones I use as they all have separate sex toilet 'blocks'

userschmoozer · 15/01/2019 23:38

Many other posters have said they only went once as the mixed rooms put them off. So that creates a self selecting group who are comfortable with them. Plus several pp have said they have staff around.

EBearhug · 16/01/2019 00:04

Our changing village is in rows, and you can see down the rows from the pool, though not into the cubicles, as that view is blocked by the shower blocks which are at the end of each row, poolside.

If anyone was naked outside of cubicles or looking under cubicles, they'd probably be seen by a swimmer and/or lifeguard. (It's not all good. Sometimes you're swimming and bring your head up to breathe... in a lung-full of Lynx or similar spray.)

I've been to other pools with changing villages, and there's no visibility from the pool at all, so you could probably do more illicit things unwitnessed. So it's not just about changing villages per se, but the overall design.

treaclesoda · 16/01/2019 07:56

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2076409-Naked-man-in-communal-showers-Totally-stark-bollock-naked?reverse=1

This discussion made me think of this thread from years ago. I searched and found it was still there. I remember at the time being really shocked by how many people said the OP was uptight and he was doing nothing wrong.

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