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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

We've all seen this video right?

169 replies

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 28/12/2018 19:14

I mean it's everywhere?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6536045/Furious-transgender-woman-rages-store-clerk-calls-sir-instead-maam.html

Misgendered and violent

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GerryblewuptheER · 31/12/2018 10:31

If a man posted a video of a woman behaving badly and it was used to say why women shouldn't have rights it would be quite rightly condemned

First up there are no rights they don't already have

And secondly well whereas normally od agree with you unfortunately we are at a point where we need this. Where we need the real truth to be told. This is what the reality is. We need everyone to realise they have been lied to and fed sob stories about things that are clearly not the case.

If people had listened

Or even thought about it for a minute we wouldn't be here

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 31/12/2018 10:34

Who has said trans people shouldn't have rights?

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 31/12/2018 10:35

Apart from you that is ...

ChewyLouie · 31/12/2018 10:41

Givenupcaring
The point is this trans person is demonstrating the type of behaviour women do not want in their spaces. The problem isn’t ‘being a complete dick’ the problem is I don’t want people ‘with complete dicks’ masquerading as women in women’s spaces and expecting me to acquiesce to their fantasies.

Hohocabbage · 31/12/2018 11:31

Givenupcaring i’ll be amazed if your transphobic post is allowed to stand. No one on here has ever said (that I’ve seen) that they were against trans rights, I hope your post is deleted as it would be the first if allowed to stand.

AgonyBeetle · 31/12/2018 11:40

www.facebook.com/1793907540937797/posts/2190004134661467/

Transgender news have posted the Fail link on their FB feed and lots of trans people, including the person in the video, have commented to say that punching someone who accidentally mistakes your identity is perfectly reasonable.

Hmm
OVAgroundWOMBlingfree · 31/12/2018 12:10

have commented to say that punching someone who accidentally mistakes your identity is perfectly reasonable.

Jesus!

My DC would get a battering on the bus.

givenupcaring · 31/12/2018 12:21

Givenupcaring i’ll be amazed if your transphobic post is allowed to stand.

I am completely at a loss as to what I have said that is transphobic.

I stand by my comment that I do not think transgender people should have any special rights. Transsexual people (ie diagnosed and medicalised) then fine but TG - no.

Flooffloof · 31/12/2018 12:22

I have tried to post the Facebook link above on Facebook but it's not posting. Is there another way?

givenupcaring · 31/12/2018 12:28

Who has said trans people shouldn't have rights?

Perhaps I should have clarified and said I dont beleive TG people should have any special rights simply for being TG.

General law affords protection from abuse and of course thats not an issue.

The issue I have is with the "I am TG therefore I should get x,y,z" irrespective of the impact of those rights on general society and other groups of people. Most TG rights I am seeing demanded are ill conceived, dangerous, open to abuse and serve absolutely no purpose other than to support in many cases fetishes and dominance.

I oppose self id and demedicalisation most strongly. I oppose the Equality Act (though I was OK with the Sex Discrimination Act Gender Reassignment) and I oppose changes to GRA. I accept transsexual people as a very small medicalised group.

PreseaCombatir · 31/12/2018 12:58

I’ve never seen a trans person do this to a big man though.
Always women or those smaller than them

Wordthe · 31/12/2018 13:02

always women or those smaller than them
the male human with the big hoop earrings may be silly
but he ain't that stoopid😅

Wordthe · 31/12/2018 13:04

Oh my mistake
I ought to have said 'the male human aint that stoopid'!

nicenewdusters · 31/12/2018 13:52

I think you were right the first time theword Grin

Greenglassteacup · 31/12/2018 14:02

Where the fuck is all of this going to end. Scary shit indeed

nicenewdusters · 31/12/2018 14:40

I often think the same Greenglass . I really hope that in just a few years time there'll be books written by social commentators called things like "How did mum become dad?", examining how we got to this point.

I want to point and laugh and mock and be derisive - and that's so not me in any other situation. But I have a brain, a critical faculty. I watched a Canadian TV discussion show on YouTube, including some guy called Nicholas who teaches Transgender studies. He started off his spiel by saying that he just wanted to make it clear from the start that there was no such thing as biological sex. And he knew, he was a medical historian. The sheer pomposity and self righteous fact twisting to get to this point infuriates me.

One of the panelists, Jordan Peterson (who I know is a controversial figure) did try and correct him. But it was so passive. Another panelist, a transwoman, who did believe in there being only two biological sexes, also addressed it but very passively. The lawyer said nothing. I'm sure in any other type of debate people would have instinctively, instantly just said don't be so ridiculous, where's the evidence, who are you to rewrite medical science etc ?

But they don't. The TRAs and the woke population scream and shout at people. Nicholas even had the cheek at the end to advise everyone that he was putting his career, and his physical and mental safety, on the line just by appearing on the show. He tried to look weak and afraid, this fairly well built man with a beard and suit who was an academic at the University of Toronto. I bet I'd have been more afraid in the walk back to the car park than him.

Greenglassteacup · 31/12/2018 14:51

It’s like a Margaret Atwood novel

ErrolTheDragon · 31/12/2018 14:52

he was putting his career ... on the line just by appearing on the show.

You can't help hoping that whoever funds his uni is prompted to take a long hard look at what his department is doing.

Greenglassteacup · 31/12/2018 15:09

Yes Errol

nicenewdusters · 31/12/2018 17:49

Prior to Nicholas' statement the host of the show read out a statement from some guests who'd decided not to take part. As transpeople they didn't want to take part in a debate with Jordan Peterson. They didn't want to make it look like his views had legitimacy.

And breathe....

QuietContraryMary · 08/01/2019 12:03

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Datun · 08/01/2019 12:05

Dear God. When will people realise that this ideology is a magnet, and an irresistible one at that, to violent men everywhere.

We've all seen this video right?
CottonTailRabbit · 08/01/2019 12:06

But that never happens.

Or obviously that person isn't a real transwoman and should therefore be disregarded Hmm

ChewyLouie · 08/01/2019 12:37

But clearly he was identifying as male during the time those offences happened. Now identifying as an ‘obvious’ woman but not quite got the high pitched dainty voice right.
I think this is all like ethnic cleansing for males - shifts the undesirables into the female class.

picklemepopcorn · 08/01/2019 12:48

Did he think he could leave his old self behind and start a new life as a woman, and everything would change? You can run away but you take yourpinktrainers and earring wearingself with you.