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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transpeople have higher rate of dv than women

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flyingdragonzog · 15/12/2018 02:53

Posted on another thread www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk

Obviously DV is wrong and terrible whoever the victim is

But do they really? Or is this just putting facts in a way that says what the world is meant to hear currently?

If we aren't recording it as rates of DV on transmen and rates of DV on transwomen... and simply recording rates of transgender people who experience DV

I'm inclined to think if we recorded the rates we would still find out that natal men are the perpetrators of the most DV? Or does becoming a transman mean you become more prone to being violent to a partner?

OP posts:
FlyingOink · 15/12/2018 22:28

a prevalence of 1% of gender incongruence wouldn't that encompass gender non conforming homosexuals too? Have you got any more info on the study? Thanks

Ereshkigal · 15/12/2018 22:45

I don't I'm afraid. I read somewhere that was where the 1% figure comes from.

BrienneofTERF · 15/12/2018 23:21

So am I right that no one has uncovered any credible evidence that trans people are disproportionately exposed to DV?

stumbledin · 15/12/2018 23:47

The Government Published the results of their LGBT Survey In July this year. And one of the questions was about violence. But the way it is reported makes it difficult to distinguish violence against someone who is trans and someone who is lesbian or gay.

You would think if there was a high level of responses of domestic violence it would have been noted.

they have published the highlights here www.gov.uk/government/publications/national-lgbt-survey-summary-report/national-lgbt-survey-summary-report#the-results

Not sure if the full report is available.

(I had got the impression from various articles that the number of trans women who were invovled in prostitution was one of the reasons for high level of violence, whether from punters or pimps. Have no links for this!)

KindOfAGeek · 16/12/2018 00:36

doesn't divide violence from "literal violence" and relies on Stonewall.

BrienneofTERF · 16/12/2018 10:48

Thanks stumbled in the GEO and Ipso Mori poll is impressively large, but biased (twice the % of young people than in the general population). I don’t discount the findings as a result of the age bias, but the sample does have issues with representativeness.
The findings are sobering and speak of a hard life of exclusion for many LGBTQ’s
However I did encounter the following:

“Waiting times for GIC clinics are far far too long, there is not enough of them which means people are committing suicide whilst waiting or turning overseas or to online website and dr’s to access hormones and drugs.” Trans woman, lesbian, 45-54, South West.

Which was probably written by a straight guy with his eye on the big phara prize, think of all the money to be made at a private specialist GIC clinic.

Also again the only ref to DV was a stonewall publication.. so can be discounted as biased on the off.

nauticant · 16/12/2018 12:23

If 1% of the UK population is transgender (660,000) then the figure of 1 trans person murdered in the UK per year suggests that they are far less at risk than the general population of men or women:

the annual homicide rate for the year ending March 2016 for males (13.8 per million population) was more than twice that for females (6.0 per million population).

Having a fragile identity that gets easily bruised by words used according to there normal meanings is not the same as suffering domestic violence.

Ereshkigal · 16/12/2018 12:32

YY. It's the trans community's own figures. They want to have it all ways. They can't. The large population means that they are not at significant risk of murder. And males who are not trans are at much higher risk.

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