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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

worried about partner

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Nsmum14 · 13/12/2018 15:09

My partner started watching Jordan Peterson videos around this time last year. Being an insecure man who has not really known privilege he was instantly attracted to J P and to his lectures. My partner started to say things like male privilege is a myth. He now believes it is men that are hard done by by the world generally. That women act like they're victims but it is simply an act.
A year on he's watching all these seemingly vile videos on youtube. Last night he was watching a video called How Women Destroy Nations (and why men let them). Whenever I ask why he is watching this stuff he gets angry and goes into fighty mode. We fall out enough as it is so I'm just keeping silent and hoping this phase passes.

It is upsetting to me though. I don't know why I'm posting this. He seems strengthened by what he watches, I think I just wanted to hear what some of you think of this.

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FlyingOink · 16/12/2018 08:39

deepwatersolo no I don't do that either, I let them assume I'm one of them and then blind them with logic Grin

Dragon3 · 16/12/2018 09:05

CritEqual you have to go back half a century to find an actual attempted murder by a feminist?

This suggests that feminists are a largely peaceful bunch, surely?

Italiangreyhound · 16/12/2018 09:14

"He was bullied at school by girls and has never had male privilege, so yes, like just about all of us he has reason to be angry. But it is the focus of it at the moment that is wrong."

Would he consider counselling to deal with the feelings the bullying produced?
I hope he finds away through this. Maybe try and empower him to find a way to feel positive without the need to. Put down down.

NotTerfNorCis · 16/12/2018 09:19

Having argued with MRAs online for a couple of years, it seems to me that they have a deep feeling of superiority over women. They see women as inferior and contemptible. Some feminists are quite anti-male, but they don't look down on them like that. If anything they build them up into the universal oppressors.

If you look at the J4MB site - the official British MRA party- you'll see daily articles about women doing something criminal or stupid. The narrative is that all women are basically like that: stupid, dishonest, greedy etc. The equivalent would be a feminist site that took random examples of men looking bad and generalised then to all men. There isn't such; the closest equivalent would be drawing attention to something like DV, but not trying to imply that 'all men are like that'.

Namenic · 16/12/2018 09:26

OP bring it back to real day to day life. It’s easy to get caught up in hypothetical, intellectual problems that we can all have an opinion about. Ask him what he thinks about your current relationship and if he has problems at work etc. Maybe having a mean female colleague or boss is affecting him like the bullies at school. In which case, he might need support and sympathy.

The general attitude in society is to value assertiveness and competition (traditional ‘male’ attributes though displayed in both sexes). He sounds like he might agree that mutual co-operation and understanding of different people’s situations are better things to aim for (for both sexes) - maybe that could be a good common starting point?

CrazyToast · 16/12/2018 11:24

I had a friend who went from liberal left to the darkside of Milo Yianopolous, JP and MRA stuff. I would try and talk to him about it, offering different viewpoints but remaining respectful to his views. He didn't change his mind but he appreciated that I would engage with him. Now he is seeming to come out of the other side after about 3 years. We are still friends.

I would try and talk to him about it. It may be something he just has to go through. It may be him for life. Overall you have decide how much you can tolerate and if this changes how you feel about him. It doesn't mean he is a bad person now.

fizzthecat1 · 16/12/2018 16:30

@HighIQ I'm not a "lefty" haha. You are the cliche cringe Peterson fan I was talking about. Not everyone who disagrees with daddy Peterson is on the left, I lean centre right. Anyway you obviously have issues with women if you're down this path and from your rambling 10 paragraph mess it's safe to assume that.

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