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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans Fact Checker

63 replies

pollobocadillo · 11/12/2018 20:57

Long time lurker, first time poster. This link was shared on one of my networks today and it’s very useful - unpicking various claims by trans activists including that half of trans children attempt suicide or that sex attacks by ‘never happen’.

www.transfacts.blogspot.com/

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Gileswithachainsaw · 12/12/2018 19:42

That's weird cos they always manage to dig up exampleslies to post on threads about women. Are are supposed to believe they can't Russell up a few cases of suicide now?

stillathing · 12/12/2018 19:54

You said, "No our brains are not plastic they are made of human tissue.

ROFL. I think you need to look up the concept of plasticity in brains.

This has made my evening!

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/12/2018 20:16

That comment about brains not being plastic... how the help do people tell what’s a spoof and what’s not?

Deliriumoftheendless · 12/12/2018 20:23

There’s an apt quote from Chris Morris in Jam.

“Stupid people are great at winning arguments because they’re too stupid to realise they’ve lost.”

Apollo440 · 12/12/2018 21:26

Surely it is a parody. Like the picture of an Apollo rocket on the launch pad with the moon in the frame offered as proof of a hoax because 'the rocket wasn't even pointing at the moon'.
It's just too stupid.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/12/2018 21:36

I clicked on the link and my browser said:

'The owner of www.transfacts.blogspot.com has configured their web site improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this web site.'

AncientLights · 12/12/2018 21:48

I especially enjoyed their response 'no, our brains are not plastic, they are made of human tissue'! Wonderfully ignorant.

ferntwist · 12/12/2018 23:48

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BettyDuMonde · 13/12/2018 00:57

the debunking of the 'de-bunking' of the transfacts

Transfacts Inception?

Will Dr Humph claim the Leonardo DiCaprio part?

Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 07:56

As predicted, here is the attempted 'de-bunking' of the transfacts.

That's completely hilarious Grin is it a parody?

I know it isn't

nellieellie · 13/12/2018 09:11

Just a query, on the fact checker, the bit about number of attacks on women, there is a reference to “transgender males” which the fact checker “debunker” ingenuously pretends to be confused about. But this means trans women doesn’t it?

Ereshkigal · 13/12/2018 09:17

Yes, agree that's slightly confusing. They should have kept to the same term for both figures.

FairytaleOfWigan · 13/12/2018 09:21

Also, generally speaking (and I know no one person can speak for everyone) are people on these threads as opposed to transgender men (women to men transitioners) as they are to transgender women?

I not opposed to either of them. They can dress how they like and call themselves what they like. It’s a free country.

I’m very happy that they have the same rights as everyone else, as long as they don’t remove mine.

I just don’t want biological males in women’s safe spaces, getting women’s awards, redefining the word “women” , speaking for women, removing women’s legal protections and playing women’s sport.

It’s quite simple really.

BrienneofTERF · 13/12/2018 09:24

Hello All,
Does anyone have a pdf of those facts please, given that MRAs and TRAs are trying to take the site down? I’d like to send the pdf it to my (Labour) MP to ask them what they are doing to protect women and children from a movement based on lies, with serious safeguarding implications.
Thanks

BrienneofTERF · 13/12/2018 09:27

Sorry just found a functioning link
qako.me/2zVOWN3

R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 09:43

Does anyone have a pdf of those facts please, given that MRAs and TRAs are trying to take the site down? I’d like to send the pdf it to my (Labour) MP to ask them what they are doing to protect women and children from a movement based on lies, with serious safeguarding implications.

Article (embedded links beneath each paragraph)

"MYTH Transwomen have surgery to transition.
REALITY 80-95% of males who identify as transgender keep their penis. Source: Sex and Gender Ethics Society, from evidence given to MPs at the Women and Equalities Select Committee inquiry in 2015.
sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

MYTH Transwomen in the UK are more at risk of murder.
REALITY Thankfully, transgender people are no more likely to be murdered than anyone else in the UK. Sources: ONS and Trans Murder Monitoring Project. Since 2008, 7 transwomen have been murdered and 12 transgender males have been convicted of murder. There were no recorded murders of transmen in that time.
fairplayforwomen.com/trans-murder-rates/?fbclid=IwAR0pC_JD0ia4S_xONvsM7LNw5AjdvZzWSRV8pqaRWIZCRafV2-Zt0I8M_GI

MYTH Half of transgender young people attempt suicide.
REALITY This statistic comes from a questionnaire filled in by a self-selecting group of just 27 transgender young people, far too small a group to meet normal statistical standards. In reality, child suicide is extremely rare. A study of Serious Case Reviews found no suicides of trans children in the UK in the last 10 years. Despite this, the threat of child suicide is used regularly by transgender lobby groups to press parents into transing their children. It is irresponsible to quote the survey without highlighting the very small sample size and flouts guidelines on reporting suicide by the Samaritans.

www.transgendertrend.com/a-scientist-reviews-transgender-suicide-stats/

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1047840065957892096.html

www.samaritans.org/media-centre/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide

MYTH Transwomen pose no risk to women and girls.
REALITY Transgender males retain the same rates of criminality as other males, including for violent crime, according to the only long-term study (Dhejne et al, 2011). Fair Play for Women found that at least 40% of transgender prisoners in England and Wales are serving sentences for sex offences, a far higher proportion than the general prison population. These figures have since been corroborated by the Ministry of Justice.

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/

MYTH Men would not identify as transgender to attack women and girls.
REALITY This monitoring project documents crimes against women and girls in the UK by males who identify as women. 98% of sex offences are committed by men, including transgender males. 90% of sex crime victims are female. Source: Ministry of Justice.
transcrimeuk.com/

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R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 09:47

MYTH Puberty blocker drugs are harmless.
REALITY Medical professionals are voicing serious concerns about the use of drugs like Lupron to block puberty in children. Estrogen and testosterone are not just needed for puberty, they are vital for teenage brain development. Young adults have been left with stunted genitalia after using puberty blockers. Much more research is needed. In the US, the FDA is investigating Lupron.
www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/

MYTH You can be born with a female brain in a male body.
REALITY There is no such thing as a male brain or female brain, especially at birth, when all but the most basic parts of the brain are undeveloped. Our brains are plastic and shaped by our experience.
www.fastcompany.com/40441920/everything-you-believe-is-wrong-there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-male-or-female-brain

MYTH Sex is assigned at birth.
REALITY Biological sex is observed and recorded at birth. Sex is determined at conception, when an egg from a woman (which always carries an X chromosome) is fertilised by a sperm from a man, carrying either a Y or an X chromosome. In fewer than 1 in 1,000 births there is a chromosomal abnormality that means sex cannot be determined straight away. For those other than a subgroup of intersex people, XX is female and XY is male. Sources: The Lancet and the Intersex Society of North America.
www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(18)32223-2/fulltext

www.isna.org/faq

MYTH Legal sex change is difficult and invasive in the UK.
REALITY The UK Gender Recognition Act (2004) is one of the most liberal in the world, requiring neither surgery nor drugs for legal sex change. About a third of the countries in the world allow legal sex change and of those the vast majority require transgender people to have surgery, including many European countries and US states. Sources: GOV.UK and Transgender Law Center.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/overseas-gender-recognition-2011-t491

transgenderlawcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Birth-Cert-overview-state-by-state.pdf

Hamster00 · 13/12/2018 10:42

It also seems the information can be found at www.transfacts.com/ too...

StrangeLookingParasite · 13/12/2018 11:21

No our brains are not plastic they are made of human tissue.

Good fucking grief.

Bubonicpanic · 13/12/2018 11:28

Well thats actually funny, they have apparantly debunked the facts by repeating the myth the facts are there debunking.

Round and round they go..

MyVisionsComeFromSoup · 13/12/2018 11:33

No our brains are not plastic they are made of human tissue.

This bit did make me laugh, I have to say. How can you possibly argue with stupid like that Grin

R0wantrees · 13/12/2018 11:40

There are some very serious issues being exposed by many TRAs lack of critical thinking & reading for understanding skills.

Badgerthebodger · 13/12/2018 12:53

No our brains aren’t plastic did make me Grin

SO much stupid!! It’s incredible these people are able to do anything really. Although many of them seem not to have jobs so...

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