Pink news looking for girls for a video on binding

[Woulddolly]

Pink news are looking for "trans or non-binary people" to appear in a film about how to "safely use a binder". Using advice from the same LGBT foundation that advised a caller that they'd send a teenage girl one without her parents knowledge.

"No cis-people"? That's discriminatory, exclusionary!

What is different between a ‘cis’ person safely wearing a binder, if indeed there is a safe way to wear a binder, and a person who has magic gender feels? Is there something in the magic gender feels that makes it more safe or something?

Breast binding, corseting, foot binding.
Yay for women self harming cos it’s fashionable.

Not at all about getting girls to talk about their breasts and film themselves at all is it

Nope..completely innocent

Things have just reached a new level of vomit inducing craziness. How dare they so openly push this harmful agenda.

What is different between a ‘cis’ person safely wearing a binder, if indeed there is a safe way to wear a binder, and a person who has magic gender feels? Is there something in the magic gender feels that makes it more safe or something?

The difference is that no sane woman would volunteer to wear a garment that's even more uncomfortable than an ill-fitting bra and encourage others to wear it, too.

I think the "no cis people, thanks" is there for the same reason they always tell "terfs" not to follow their blogs and shit: Deep down they know that we don't want anything to do with them.

When the fox couldn't reach the grapes, it claimed they were too sour anyway.

What is different between a ‘cis’ person safely wearing a binder, if indeed there is a safe way to wear a binder, and a person who has magic gender feels? Is there something in the magic gender feels that makes it more safe or something?

The difference is that no sane woman would volunteer to wear a garment that's even more uncomfortable than an ill-fitting bra and encourage others to wear it, too.

I think the "no cis people, thanks" is there for the same reason they always tell "terfs" not to follow their blogs and shit: Deep down they know that we don't want anything to do with them.

When the fox couldn't reach the grapes, it claimed they were too sour anyway.

‘safe’ binding? It’s a harmful activity with serious risks of physical complications.

What’s the pain-inducing everyday male equivalent here?
What painful and restrictive device is distributed free to young boys like this for daily use?
What are boys being encouraged to do to their bodies every day to the point that they can’t physically exert themselves or they might pass out? Which causes the boys pain and skin rashes?
What daily compliance with the dogma is required of boys and men that potentially permanently damages their body parts, to the point that they couldn’t use those body parts for its intended purpose even years later?

Why is it girls and women who are expected and encouraged to suffer like this?

So is this film going to specify exactly how to avoid cracked ribs, back pain, tissue damage oh and let's not forget how to remove future complications of breast cancer no longer being effectively treated by mastectomy?

I am interested in how medical professionals suggest you get around that. I assume this film will have the full involvement of at least one medically qualified advisor right?

Why is it girls and women who are expected and encouraged to suffer like this?

Unable to physically exert themselves. While their male born equivalents get to compete in sports categories where they hold a distinct advantage.

I assume this film will have the full involvement of at least one medically qualified advisor right?

Absolutely agree this video needs doctors to talk openly- one paediatrician for adolescents and a generalist women’s health specialists and probably a breast cancer specialist. I mean, this is an information video isn’t it? So they want to provide facts?

I wonder why Penis News is even doing this? Do news outlets normally give advice like this? Are they some kind of healthcare provider now?

Jesus....

I wonder if they’ll be inundated with applications from middle aged AGPs wanting to validate that they have enough breast tissue to bind

Pink News ran an artice about 'binders' earlier this year:

'Explainer
Chest binding is an integral part of the transitioning process for lots of trans men – here’s how it works'
Bea Mitchell 30th April

As you likely already know, chest-binding is a technique used to make breasts appear smaller. Binders are essentially undergarments that bind the boobs to the body.

Usually used by transgender men or non-binary people, binders are very tight and simply create a flatter chest – though they can be extremely uncomfortable and in some cases, very risky.

However, binding is safe if it’s done with care and a bit of research…

The bigger the boobs, the harder it’s going to be to get them small – for obvious reasons. Underworks compression tanks, binders, and tri-top binders are recommended for bigger bodies and larger cup sizes.

Don’t cut costs. Obviously this isn’t an option for everyone, but if it is, invest in a decent binder. However, if you can’t afford it, there are binder exchange programmes.

The Transitional Male aims to “provide quality new or gently used binders to Transmen & TransYoungmen, 18 and over (and younger when a parent makes contact) who would otherwise not be able to afford a new binder, at retail prices due to hardship.”

Transgender people on YouTube also auction off their old binders after getting top surgery. (continues)

The Binding Health Project

A groundbreaking study looked at the health benefits and risks of binding among trans people. The study, believed to be the first to look a the effects of binding on trans people, was released by the Binding Health Project at Boston University.

1,800 people were asked about how they bind and the effects it has on their health. More than 97 percent of respondents said they had experienced one or more negative health effect from binding.

The effects included pain, overheating and shortness of breath and fifty people said they were subjected to fractured ribs as a result of their binding.

From those asked in the study, many said they would keep binding despite negative health risks, given the relief it gives them from their gender dysphoria.

Those conducting the study recommended taking “off days” from binding if possible, and to use extra caution when using commercial binders that the correct size and fit is used.

They recommended not using cling film or duct tape for binding.

The study was conducted by the Binding Health Project in order to empower trans people and their medical professionals, by educating about how to bind safely."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/04/30/chest-binding-transgender-transitioning/

Do you think we could get media sponsorship for a video teaching girls trying to manage distress how to cut or burn themselves in a way which minimises the risk of infection? No? Why not I wonder?

Pink News
'Groundbreaking study shows health effects of binding among trans people'
Joseph Patrick McCormick 7th February 2017

A groundbreaking study has looked at the health benefits and risks of binding among trans people.

The study, believed to be the first to look a the effects of binding on trans people, was released by the Binding Health Project at Boston University.

1,800 people were asked about how they bind and the effects it has on their health.

Chest binding is usually practiced by trans men and non-binary people to flatten their chest.

Commercial chest binders are available but many also use bandages, cling film, duct tape and sports bras.

Many in the study said that binding was a “daily occurrence”, for an average of ten hours.

More than 97 percent of respondents said they had experience one or more negative health effect from binding.

The effects included pain, overheating and shortness of breath.

Fifty people said they were subjected to fractured ribs as a result of their binding.

Unusually, commercial binders were the most commonly associated with the negative effects, and those using them on the whole reported experiencing 20 out of 28 listed health effects.

Other materials, according to the study, proved less harmful to the health of the binder than the commercial binders, with just 13 out of the 28 negative health effects listed by people using these.

Sarah Peitzmeier, a researcher, was surprised to find the results about commercial binders.

She said that they are usually the safest as they are specially designed, and that the injuries or other negative health impacts could be down to them being used incorrectly “for example layering multiple binders on top of each other or using a binder that is a size too small for greater compression.”

Many said they did not seek advice from a health professional despite being in pain.

“My impression is awareness of binding is relatively low in the medical community,” added Peitzmeier.

“Even medical professionals who know about binding aren’t really sure how to assess it clinically, what the potential health impact of binding could be, and what safer binding practices they should recommend to patients.”

From those asked in the study, many said they would keep binding despite negative health risks, given the relief it gives them from their gender dysphoria.

Those conducting the study recommended taking “off days” from binding if possible, and to use extra caution when using commercial binders that the correct size and fit is used.

They recommended not using cling film or duct tape for binding.

The study was conducted by the Binding Health Project in order to empower trans people and their medical professionals, by educating about how to bind safely.

“We want medical professionals to support people who bind in making decisions to maximise their physical and mental health,” continues Peitzmeier."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/02/07/groundbreaking-study-shows-health-effects-of-binding-among-trans-people/

so despite reporting actual health risks. The 'health benefit' is a perceived feeling

Important article by Lily Maynard which shows the reality of binders on young female bodies.

There is a very moving and powerful enbedded video by Kat who has come to profound realisations about the relationship with binding, self harm and abuse. As part of Kat's commitment to a healthier future, she cuts up the binder.

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2017/10/28/im-feeling-ecstatic-and-scared-and-mums-feeling-sick-young-women-binding/

R0wantrees
That link is so infuriating. And the picture of the destroyed breasts...that would have been me if I was younger. I walked with a hunch for years to try to hide my breasts. Caused me back problems.
These people who encourage young girls to believe they can actually become boys are pure evil. It can't be done. That's all they need to know. It literally can't be done. Don't waste your time, don't chop yourself up, don't ruin your endocrine system for life, don't change your name. Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind. I'd have loved to have been told I could just "become" a man when I was younger. Life would have been so much more straightforward, right?
But like 80/90% of these exploited children I just grew up gay. Except I'm healthy and my body is intact, and they won't get that chance.

As Kat says in the video it is often a form of self harm.
Girls in the past who cut themselves or were bulhemic etc were more obviously perceived as experiencing distress.
Mental health services for children and young people are appalling but in this situation girls are affirmed for their injuries.

That it may also be a response to abuse, misogyny or homphobia is tragic beyond words.

Good grief. Lily’s article and Kat’s video.
There must be better professional talking help provided for these girls and young women, via NHS mental health services, and without long waits. Why don’t these charities campaign together for that? How it is possibly better to do what they do?

sandydrawsbadly

Whenever I read about breast binding foot binding springs to mind.

I wish someone brave would do some visual adverts.

It amazes me that women in 2018 would damage themselves in this way.

What's the justification for the recommendation to avoid cling film or duct tape, given that negative outcomes were more common in those using commercial binders?

Reminds me of the olden days when the 'safety' recommendations around smoking (based on tobacco-funded studies) were to inhale less deeply and to take the fag out of your mouth between puffs.

No. Safety involved not smoking. Health involves not using a binder and attacking the gross misogyny of a society that makes girls self harm their secondary sexual characteristics while refunding CAMHS because if you find a CAMHS service you just get patients using it.

'defunding CAMHS'
'fund CAMHS'

What's the justification for the recommendation to avoid cling film or duct tape, given that negative outcomes were more common in those using commercial binders?

Due to more long-term use, or are the binders worse if used for exactly the same amount of time?

Perhaps the justification is that the TiFs can sleep better at night knowing their breasts are bound than they could if they used duct tape and had to remove it for the night?