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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Universities for you and your children to boycott if you are pro women’s rights and want to avoid the excesses of trans ideology

42 replies

IdaBWells · 02/12/2018 11:39

Goldsmiths

University of Sussex

Any others?

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GCAcademic · 02/12/2018 11:44

Leeds

But most of them have implemented self-id from what I can tell. Mine has changed single-sex accommodation (which would include shared bedrooms when accommodation is oversubscribed), changing rooms, toilets, etc to single gender. Screw any woman who doesn’t want to share her sleeping or changing space with a penis. Her bigotry will be in breach of university policies.

Ereshkigal · 02/12/2018 11:57

It's appalling. I've mentioned before how when I went into university accommodation I had just come out of a violent and controlling abusive relationship. To be forced to share with a man would have broken me.

NopeNi · 02/12/2018 11:59

All of them I think. I haven't seen a single one question it. They seem to be trying to out-woke each other.

Bittermints · 02/12/2018 12:00

Wouldn't it be better to go armed with the knowledge and self-confidence to put a different point of view? I strongly suspect the vast majority of students do believe there are two sexes and would be open to the idea that gender stereotyping is harmful and GNC people can be just that without having to do anything to their bodies. I'm quite certain most of the staff are. The problem at present is people are frightened of speaking out because it causes so much grief. However, if a student or staff member knew they weren't alone, it would be just that bit easier to say something.

As for Sussex, the presence of Prof Stock on the staff would increase my desire to go there.

Re Goldsmiths - I know it looks like Woke Central from the news coverage, but if you ever pass by in term-time, as I have occasion to do sometimes, it's pretty clear it has a very diverse student body, including lots of local young people who might not have gone to university further afield. They go to Goldsmiths because it's easy to get to and they can carry on living at home, keep their part-time jobs going, see their schoolfriends, not feeling like a fish out of water in a new town where there's nobody else with their faith/colour of skin, none of their favourite foods available in the shops/canteens, and so on.

The woke kids are mostly the ones coming in from further afield, like one LM.

Spottycake · 02/12/2018 12:02

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Wolverhampton seems to be more interested in actual inclusivity than ‘wrongthink’

AspieAndProud · 02/12/2018 12:20

It’s less about which university - some are worse than others but they all seem to have swallowed this and if they haven’t yet they probably will before your kids graduate - as subjects. Stay out of the humanities. Get a STEM degree. The world needs more women in STEM anyway. STEM fields aren’t entirely safe from this nonsense but they are better protected.

BettyDuMonde · 02/12/2018 12:50

It’s the student unions that are driving a lot of this stuff, not the universities themselves.

Worth looking at which unions disaffiliated from the NUS.

Here’s an incomplete list as a start point.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_students%27_unions_in_the_United_Kingdom_not_affiliated_with_the_NUS

I see Hull are on here - that gives them two ticks on the ‘woman friendly’ assessment list (currently only in my head).

Maybe we should be compiling an opposite list to the one the OP suggests? A positive one (places who have committed to offering women’s facilities, rather than replacing with gender neutral etc).

Reading are apparently being very supportive of Rosa Freedman and Rosemary Auchmuty.

Iused2BanOptimist · 02/12/2018 13:01

Fwiw I've been to three open days this term. Was mildly cheered to note all loos signed Female/Male one way or another (symbol/words). Didn't even bother sticking up an Adult human female sticker yesterday, the loos were so spotless I didn't think it would stay there for long. (Another plus for that particular university).

Freespeecher · 02/12/2018 13:10

NUS is massively in debt and may yet collapse.

So there's that.

EmotionsDontEngageWithbrain · 02/12/2018 13:10

Lancashire & Leicester Universities are at start, they have got foot in door.

I’ve asked this question to one University because When choosing halls you have selection just female or male or mixed.

It’s utterly wrong that those choices especially for females is now basically a gamble and they don’t have a leg to stand on if they find out hall share female is one that just identifies as one.

MickHucknallspinkpancakes · 02/12/2018 13:13

I'm seeing a lot of kickback about Hull uni naming a lecture theatre after Jenni Murray on Twitter from TRAs.

GCAcademic · 02/12/2018 13:16

Stay out of the humanities.

I disagree with this. In my experience, most humanities academics have not taken leave of their senses, and do not reject science. I see this as more of an issue with the social sciences than the humanities.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/12/2018 13:30

Lancashire & Leicester Universities are at start, they have got foot in door.

There is no 'Lancashire university' - do you mean Lancaster or UCLAN ?

EmotionsDontEngageWithbrain · 02/12/2018 14:07

Yes that’s Blush especially as have child there

EmotionsDontEngageWithbrain · 02/12/2018 14:08

UCLAN

Rattinghat · 02/12/2018 14:15

Avoiding a good university because of trans activists is another example of falling prey to their bullying.

Although I would avoid SOAS as it's full of woke shite of every discription. Anti globalisation, but they all smoke. Sponge off the Hari Krishna food cart every day.

Needmoresleep · 02/12/2018 16:01

Bristol?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thetab.com/uk/bristol/2018/09/13/bristol-university-to-introduce-gender-neutral-bathrooms-in-all-buildings-34168/amp

£3.4 million on gender neutral loos when the annual welfare spend is £1 million and they have just got rid of hall wardens to save money.

Urbanbeetler · 02/12/2018 16:06

Bristol refused to bow down to no-platforming if I remember rightly.

Needmoresleep · 02/12/2018 16:52

But student welfare appear to continue to be a low priority, below their gender bollocks stuff, though the SU is worse than the Uni. I think the Uni only stepped in on the no platforming under pressure from the DoE.

Needmoresleep · 02/12/2018 16:57

Sorry DfE nor DoE

RedToothBrush · 02/12/2018 17:58

Stay out of the humanities

History is important.

Twenty years ago I did media with credits in history. One compulsory one was gender studies.

I perhaps would not be where I am without the education I've had.

The problem is the union not the degree.

FWIW my university is now a wokesville uni. When I went it has a very small number of people who were active in the union despite its size. It kept trying to ban alcohol from the large halls which were suitable for gig venues because there was a large Muslim contingent in the Union at the time. I can honestly say I knew no one who voted in union elections; it was incredibly insular.

Of course this is the perfect breeding ground for extremes of politics.

Rattinghat · 02/12/2018 18:01

I have been to 4 universities and I can't remember giving a second's heed to anything the student union or the NUS did or said. The sabs scheme seemed to me to be a kind of skivey gap year for losers. Like 5 of them stuck in an office, banging on about nothing.

Spottycake · 02/12/2018 18:13

History can teach you what to look for. Past patterns vs. What is happening now

RepealTheGRA · 02/12/2018 21:39

Check policies on websites, are they using sex/gender correctly? If not email and challenge. Do this for anywhere your children are or are considering going. Make it clear that you are paying/contributing to fees and that them upholding single sex spaces/acknowledging sex as a protected characteristic is a deal breaker.

aroundanothercorner · 02/12/2018 22:00

Look at the vice-chancellors. A significant number are Masons who you might suggest are not pro women's rights.

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