In defence of deadnaming

[welshgendercrit]

For ‘deadnaming’ is just a Newspeak word designed to demonise the telling of historical truths. Not satisfied with seeking to control contemporary discussion and attitudes, now trans activists and their allies (all institutions, in essence) want to control the past itself. History. No way. The past happened, it was true, and we should not allow that to be erased and forgotten just to make some people feel better about themselves.

Yet again spiked (which I never used to read) has written a good, hardhitting, sensible article on transactivism.

www.spiked-online.com/2018/10/11/in-defence-of-deadnaming/

Is someone with both types of gonad male or female?

Nobody has ever been found with functioning both sex gonads. Individuals have been found with some non functional tissue of both.

If you have to refer back to Y chromosomes in such cases, what about in people who also have chromosomal mosaicism, which is not vanishingly rare? what about them? What exactly is the evidence that says that somebody with a chimerism is anything to do with trans?

It’s irrelevant. It says nothing whatsoever about transgender. nothing. intersex conditions are physical. Medically relevant errors of sexual development. They are physical, defineable, observable.

Gender identity is not. It’s an idea, a concept.

Intersex conditions are nothing to do with being trans. Nobody is a third sex. Nobody can change sex.

I’m not quite sure what you mean in the bit about criminality? You’re arguing for mixed sex toilets but I’m not sure I follow why?

fox, you do know that a strapon isn't actually a cock, don't you?

No Datun, Fox appears to have a Nonexistent brain, so I don’t think they do.

OHHHHHHHHHHH. Are spiritual cocks actually strap-ons? Do they transubstantiate into real cocks when sucked by class-of-women-who-shall-not-be-named? Is that how it works?

Meh. I thought there would be glitter.

because personally I don't know whether I'm lesbian or bi under your classification system.

If you are a female exclusively fancy females (of the class that produce large immobile gametes- ova) you a lesbian.

If you are a male (of the class that produce small mobile gametes) and exclusively fancy other males you are gay.

If you are open to both sexes you are bisexual.

See? All quite easily defined. Words mean summat

because personally I don't know whether I'm lesbian or bi under your classification system.

Under your system you could be a bloke.

That some people like using 'toys' in their sexual activities doesn't make them bisexual.

Yes, this is my point.

fox, you do know that a strapon isn't actually a cock, don't you?

Yes, and I also know that there are women who get turned on by imagining a cock of the non-detachable variety even if they don't want to go anywhere near one IRL. So they have some attraction to the concept while being what I'm perfectly happy to also call 100% lesbians.

Under your system you could be a bloke.

Possibly, but as far as I can tell without having gestated a child, I'm not.

There are lesbians who prefer dick but stick religiously to women out of principle

What. The. Fuck. Have I just read

Possibly, but as far as I can tell without having gestated a child, I'm not

What criteria are you using to come to this conclusion? Given that it's so complicated.

Lesbians enjoy having their strap on fucked!
Christ above. Porn has really fucked up the minds of a certain generation.

^Sucked oops

But fucked works.

Fox
You do know porn isn't real.

What happens if a spiritual dick encounters a vagina dentata?

I also know that there are women who get turned on by imagining a cock of the non-detachable variety even if they don't want to go anywhere near one IRL. So they have some attraction to the concept

I personally have never had such a discussion with any of the lesbians of my acquaintance; however, I also know that 'fantasy' isn't the same as 'real life' in terms of what people indulge in with regard to sex.

What. The. Fuck. Have I just read

Whole new vistas of human variety, huh?

What criteria are you using to come to this conclusion? Given that it's so complicated.

It's not always complicated. All the indications are that I'm of the class that produces ova and I'm perfectly comfortable that way. Ergo I'm a woman.

Lesbians enjoy having their strap on (s)ucked!

I'm sorry, is this news to you?

I personally have never had such a discussion with any of the lesbians of my acquaintance; however, I also know that 'fantasy' isn't the same as 'real life' in terms of what people indulge in with regard to sex.

Well then we may have misunderstood each other over what "exclusively" means. If someone has the occasional fantasy about a sex they don't want to go anywhere near IRL are they bisexual?

Wow.

This started off as a discussion about deadnaming and now it's about NonExistentFox's lesbian fantasies.

Way to derail a thread there.

this is the way it always goes

1. Angrily refer to the tiny tiny proportion of people who are born with disorders of sexual development

1. ??????

1. Therefore Barry in IT is actually Barbie, and must share a toilet with you for her own safety YOU BIGOT

If someone has the occasional fantasy about a sex they don't want to go anywhere near IRL are they bisexual?

I think you answered this yourself in this bit: "about a sex they don't want to go anywhere near IRL".

Therefore, no, they're not bisexual.

What happens if a spiritual dick encounters a vagina dentata?

Spontaneous combustion?

This started off as a discussion about deadnaming and now it's about NonExistentFox's lesbian fantasies.

To be fair, NonexistentFox doesn't know if they are lesbian, bixesual or whatever because NonexistentFox can't quite work it out. Because it is so hard these days.

To be fair, NonexistentFox doesn't know if they are lesbian, bixesual or whatever because NonexistentFox can't quite work it out. Because it is so hard these days.

To be fair, they could be a lesbian with a penis, and be using up Kleenex like it's going out of fashion.

To be fair, they could be a lesbian with a penis, and be using up Kleenex like it's going out of fashion.

That occurred to me a few minutes ago.

That as well!

Other soft tissues are available.

Deadnaming is acceptable as a 'formerly known as' thing.

Any offender who wants to change name or gender can get stuffed.