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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am a feminist, and today I...

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HumourlessFeminist · 26/11/2018 19:34

...talked to my colleagues about MRAs, hopefully in a rational and informative way.

I'd love to hear about everyone else's micro (or not so micro!) acts of feminism.

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UpstartCrow · 26/11/2018 19:51

I emailed David T.C. Davis to thank him for defending The Equality Act.

Theinconstantgardener · 26/11/2018 19:55

Colleagues discussing the channel 4 programme naked attraction. Pointed out that it was objectifying women's bodies ( ok mens as well but who cares about them eh! ) Also pointed out many young women will not have smear tests as they are ashamed of the way their bodies look and no wonder when this sort of thing is on TV Lots of Shock faces then silence.

Theinconstantgardener · 26/11/2018 19:58

also stickered and leafleted changing rooms nd loos. Not a bad start to the week I thoughtGrin

Theinconstantgardener · 26/11/2018 19:59

Good idea ' upstart' will do that too

silentcrow · 26/11/2018 19:59

Today I obtained funding for school books and oh yes, quite a few of those will be celebrating women Grin I'm having a great deal of fun picking them out.

Theinconstantgardener · 26/11/2018 20:00

Nice one silent

SeaWitchly · 26/11/2018 20:21

In the past I have signed various petitions and given to fundraisers regarding women’s rights, particularly right to freedom of speech.
More recently I have been sharing Woman’s Place posts on my facebook page. Which outs me as a WP supporter and gender critical feminist/TERF. That this feels rebellious and daunting is a sad reflection on the current policing and potential doxxing of likeminded women.

Screamqueenz · 26/11/2018 20:21

Got my DH and DSs to listen to this mornings woman's hour.

Serfisafleur · 26/11/2018 21:02

Today....
Don't know if any of you have come across a book called "The Tribe, The Liberal Left and the System of Diversity"

It's a really good book written by a former Labour party member who discusses identity politics BS. I agree with a lot of it but not all of it. The author (male) predictably has a problem with feminism.

Anyway my DP has now read it too and seems to agree with the authors problem with feminism (which admittedly is an identity politics).

One chapter addresses the "problem" with feminist's obsession with the number of women killed by their intimate partner per week by saying "but so many more men per week are killed but this is ignored, feminists ignore men's problems" (basically NAMALT and WATM).

I was able to clearly say - "how is the problem of men being killed by other men a feminist issue?"
Of course feminists care about men being killed but they talk about women's issues".

He tried to ask "but when women kill men is this a feminist issue too?" I replied in a way that hopefully made him think. (Can't remember exactly it was fact-based).

It's annoying that so many people dismiss feminism as an identity politics distraction, and unfortunately my partner is one of them but I am (annoyingly to him) quite a rad fem. If I can make him think, I can make anyone think.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 26/11/2018 23:09

Discovered that 2 older men at an activity I do are both (and in one case very strongly) gender-critical! Didn't get the chance to talk much more with them, but I'm sure we will have some further conversations on the subject, and maybe more than just talk, when we get another chance!

Also working on some emails, but finding it very hard going Sad

MrsFogi · 26/11/2018 23:25

Today I continued to put stickers up - as I do every day and will continue to do whilst there is talk of self-id becoming law.

PimmsnLemonade · 27/11/2018 00:09

Today I signed the petition for Twitter to re-instate Meghan Murphy - www.change.org/p/twitter-re-instate-meghan-murphy - and made a donation to Feminist Current.

HumourlessFeminist · 27/11/2018 08:10

🙌🏻 I love these, it's great to get ideas for things to do from other people.

/wonders what to do today

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Waterparc · 27/11/2018 08:32

Shared a Facebook post post from Man Who Has It All.:)

drspouse · 27/11/2018 09:44

Told a FB friend (who'd shared the BBC article about the day of remembrance for women) about the Twitter feed of the same and how it was suspended.

QuentinWinters · 27/11/2018 10:02

...had a discussion about bodily autonomy and why getting pregnant should ultimately be an individual not joint choice with do
....shared research about what works to increase women in the workplace with a colleague going for a senior position
....made eldest DS (14) make pack lunch foryoungest d's (7) and get him ready for school

Socrates11 · 27/11/2018 10:02

Most days I read, follow and support (retweet+like) gender critical feminists on Twitter until they ban us all, and here on wonderful Mumsnet.

I went to the CEASE conference in London.at the beginning of the month to do feminism IRL a week or so ago (as the Womens Place meeting I went to was a year ago!) Julie Bindel, Heather BE and Fiona Broadfoot were fabulous, as were all the other people campaigning to stop sexual exploitation.

There was a thread recently asking why are you a feminist (or something similar) I went and found Greer's 'The Whole Woman' which I am re-reading as I know there was stuff in it that solidified my position back in the day.

A lot of my daily feminism is reading and thinking about it and finding more out about the trail blazers. (I also do climate change, history and geography)

PutYourShirtOnMartin · 27/11/2018 16:00

I am fighting my own battle with twitter who want me to apologize for saying a certain ball waxing tampon string obsessing pervert is a man etc... it's a small battle. I see it as fighting against the silencing of women

HumourlessFeminist · 28/11/2018 21:53

I corrected someone at work who referred to some young women as girls, and pointed out why the word girls wasn't appropriate.

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HirooOnoda · 28/11/2018 23:02

@HumourlessFeminist

Quite the apt username 😴

I am woman, and I find it distasteful in the extreme that so many ‘feminists’ seem to want to determine what is right for me and what i should be referred to - do you not see the paradoxical nature of this statement? Don’t get me wrong, I am all for furthering the cause of women’s rights but please can we pick our battles a little more wisely. I for one don’t mind being referred to as a ‘girl’, as many women do not, in the right setting and have been referred to as a woman pejoratively on many occasions - ultimately both are just words that can only be fully appraised in context and to do so without is a complete and utter waste of time, time that could be better spent fighting worthier battles.
I feel you and others like you miss the point of the wider picture and your perceived suoport and ‘help’ actually does a great disservice to attempting to further our cause

LastOneDancing · 28/11/2018 23:10

Not today, but I said 'You can't change sex' out loud to lovely, very woke, liberal friends.

There was shocked silence. Someone actually said 'but what do you mean?!'

I think they've fallen out with me.
But I spoke my truth.

HumourlessFeminist · 28/11/2018 23:11

@HirooOnoda 😄, I wondered whether someone might disagree with that.

I think it's infantilising to refer to women as girls (and to men as boys). I stand by that.

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Serfisafleur · 28/11/2018 23:45

I for one don’t mind being referred to as a ‘girl’

If you're an adult woman the term "girl" is simply inaccurate and I would also challenge that.

Oxford English Dictionary
noun.
A female child.
'girls go through puberty earlier than boys' 'The activity camp is open to boys and girls from senior infants to sixth class.'

HirooOnoda · 29/11/2018 00:31

@HumourlessFeminist

That’s exactly my point. You are more than entitled to believe in what you wish, I advocate freedom of thought regardless of sex, more than anything. What you are however not entitled to do is tell other women what they should feel. Don’t you see that this sort of thinking has worrisome parralels to the oppression suffered by women for hundreds of years, except sadly in this isntance it is at the hands of fellow women, go figure

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 29/11/2018 00:44

I don’t want to be referred to as a girl. I too find it infantilising. I ain’t going to give anyone grief for using the term when referring to me but l am an adult human female, therefore a woman. I’d much prefer to be called such.

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