Mhari Black at The Fawcett Society......[sad]

[BertrandRussell]

"If you find yourself caring about what's between someone's legs, then you are a part of the problem. Being a woman is not enough, women have to support other women. We need good women in politics"

I am so sad about this. The Fawcett Society, ffs. Mhari Black, ffs.

So assuming she would date a 'male lesbian' then if she doesnt care whats between someones legs? Anyone on twitter like to ask her that?

It's not what's between their legs we care about per se but how it impacts their behaviour and affects us negatively.

Ffs

She's also apparently "bored" of gender. How nice for her. The rest of us don't have that privilege.

It’s breathtaking ignorance for a lesbian, to be totally unaware of trans violence and threats to make them “suck lady dick”. And she is hugely privileged indeed if she doesn’t have to risk assess every stranger on a dark night on the basis of “what they have in their pants” - it’s almost exclusively males who present a threat of violence or murder to lone females.

SNP MSPs/MPs etc are not allowed to speak out against the party policy (it’s in their constitution). It’s what has made the SNP do strong as they always speak in one voice but it is also their greatest weakness.

Combined with Mhairi being young and never really worked doesn’t give her a huge amount of life experience. And despite her accent she is resolutely middle class.

HamiltonCork what makes you say she is middle class?

Glosswitch has some useful commentary (the thread repays reading):

What next? People who campaign against poverty "only care about bits of paper with numbers printed on them denoting a symbolic value and are part of the problem"?

twitter.com/glosswitch/status/1065400619077443584

"And despite her accent she is resolutely middle class."

1. what do you mean?
2. why does it matter?

We need good women in politics

Indeed, Mhairi. But the ones with penises will steadily force the ones with vaginas out of politics.

She's also apparently "bored" of gender.

Aren't we all? I'm sure we could all find other things we'd prefer to put our energies into.

But I do care what’s between someone’s legs and I’m not sure why this makes me a bad person? If someone had or seems likely to have a penis between their legs I make a very different set of judgments about risk and also about sexual compatibility than if they don’t. I’m genuinely perplexed about who these people are for whom genitals play no role at all in their lives.

‘...if someone has...’ not had, sorry.

‘Bored’ of gender?

Christ. That’s really poor.
I’m really bloody bored of gender too. Lots of other important stuff I need to be worrying about. Sex is real though and the serious problems that gender imposes on (the female) sex are not going anywhere... whether our politicians find that ‘boring’ or not.

She's also apparently "bored" of gender.

Likewise. But I'm also bored of performing dynamic risk assessments every time I get into a train carriage at night or walk along dark streets or places with poor lighting etc. or need to get a phone out to text someone.

I'm bored of the sheer contempt and disrespect shown for thoughtful points of view when they come from less-privileged women.

I'd rather use my cognitive and emotional resources for so many other things but they're frittered away on risk assessments and dealing with others in a civil manner when they make no effort to be civil or vaguely polite in return.

Why does she think women have been oppressed, historically? Why are we under-represented in government? Why did we have to fight so hard for the right to vote?

Hint: it's not because we truly have pink sparkly ladybrains that aren't good at politics.

Actually, you can imagine how it would have gone if today's trans ideology had been prominent a hundred years ago. Those votes for women placards? So exclusionary - don't they know that women with penises can already vote? Why are they complaining? (Any men with vaginas would of course still be barred from voting, as the current exemption to stop transmen inheriting over their younger brothers proves - but don't forget, it's wrong to care about what's between someone's legs, feminists!)

Is she on glue?

Actually, you can imagine how it would have gone if today's trans ideology had been prominent a hundred years ago. Those votes for women placards? So exclusionary - don't they know that women with penises can already vote? Why are they complaining? (Any men with vaginas would of course still be barred from voting, as the current exemption to stop transmen inheriting over their younger brothers proves - but don't forget, it's wrong to care about what's between someone's legs, feminists!)

This is a really, really good shorthand that I am going to steal and use - thank you!

Just remember, she's not so long out of student politics...

The frustrating thing is that I and I am sure a lot of other women would prefer to be attracted to women based on having had some pretty awful experiences with men. If I was in charge of my own sexuality I'd choose to be gay. Likewise many gay women who've faced discrimination and been threatened with corrective rape might very much wish they were straight in this very imperfect world.

Sexuality isn't a preference

Materialist

Why are politicians incapable of joining the dots?

The SNP Government (like the UK govt) has a strategy and a shedload of cash to tackle Violence against Women and Girls - murder, rape, sexual assaults, stalking, harassment, FGM and domestic abuse/violence. The cash funds a diverse range of projects, testing 'things that work' to stop male violence and the research involves listening to survivors and their advocates.

I can't believe that all this work has gone over the head of most women politicians. They say that they are being compassionate to the men who want to be in women's spaces, but in doing so they show a lack of regard for women's safety and feelings of security.

Either you want to secure the safety of women from men, or you don't. Which is it?

www.gov.scot/policies/violence-against-women-and-girls/

I'm sick of this talking about genitals too. TRAs keep going on about how people are "attracted to genitals" or else judging whether someone's sex by their genitals in daily life. It's not genitals that we observe and are or are not attracted to, it's secondary sexual characteristics. These come about because of biological sex just as much as genitals, but they're not caused by genitals but by chromosomes and hormones. A man without a penis due to accident or choice will still look as much of a man to a woman passing him by.

Gender is boring, but I'm not the one pushing its agenda..